Carbo on Tanguay, Laraque, Sundin

posted by Mike Boone at 21h30 EST on Jul 7


Guy Carbonneau called the acquisition of Alex Tanguay a "Christmas present that came before July 1."

"He may have had some difficulties last season," the coach added, "But his style will mesh very well with the kinds of players we have. And at the age he's coming here, I think he'll be able to handle the pressure of playing in Montreal."

Carbo said neither he nor Gainey had made any promises to Tanguay in terms of potential linemates. The coach and gm will see how things work out on the ice, as was the case last season, Carbonneau recalled, in finding a line combination that suited Alex Kovalev.

 



Re Laraque, Carbo said "it's not my style of coaching to have a guy at the end of the bench just to fight."

 "I haven't changed my philosophy," Carbonneau added. "I think Georges can contribute. He understands his role and he's a mature player with a lot of experience."

Will Laraque give Carbonneau the kind of minutes he got from his fourth liners last season?

"I hope so. I talked to Georges, and that's one thing we're going to work on this year, working hard in practice so he can put those minutes on the ice.

"I like to use four lines. I always did, and I don't think I'm going to change. He's going to have to be in good shape and reliable defensively. But I know who he is, I've seen him play and I know he can do it."

 Carbonneau said that although the new schedule isn't out yet, he expects Canadiens will play more back-to-back and three-in-four-nights sequences.

Carbonneau seemed quite comfortable with the amount of time Mats Sundin is taking to determine his future. His serenity – while describing Sundin as an "extraordinarily good fit" with the Canadiens – suggests the club may be in a better position vis-à-vis Sundin than anyone is letting on.

When asked about Vancouver's offer, Carbonneau said "no one is going to spit on $20 million, but if competing offers are between $7 million and $8.5 million (per season), once you factor in taxes there's a difference of may $1 million, $1.5 million.

"I think Mats Sundin has plenty of money in the bank. Money won't necessarily be the deciding factor in where he chooses to finish his career.

"Everyone who knows Mats says he makes decisions when he's ready. I don't think he was ready July 1, and I think he's still not ready."

And with the Rangers and Detroit spending up to near the cap, Carbonneau says "I like our chances" of landing Sundin.

On Mark Streit: "After the kind of season Mark had, we knew it would be hard to re-sign him. We like Mark, but we have other priorities."

Mathieu Dandenault: "The season doesn't begin until October and he's still a member of the Montreal Canadiens. With the kind of schedule we're going to have, we'll need more than 20 players. We were extremely lucky last season to avoid serious injuries, and we'll need depth in our lineup."

 On a possible cap squeeze: "I think we can sign Sundin and still have a cushion"

On the situation at centre: "We've tried Chris Higgins at centre. We can till try Sergei (Kostitsyn) if we want to. Steve Beegin has experience at centre. We have different options. Nothing is in stone. We're laying ine pre-season games and we'll try different combinations."

 On the market: "I'm not surprised by the money. They give that kind of money because they can. But I'm surprised by the length of some contracts, especially for average or above-average players."

On Mike Komisarek getting a mega-contract next year: "I'm sure we can reach up. We have the money and some room left. I'm sure they'll figure out something. I don't think he's going anywhere."

 

 


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nfldanchor's picture
I also agree Latendresse is due for a breakout year. He is big,strong and has the skills. He needs to be used properly on the right line combination and he will excel. I think we are in for a great year.

nfldanchor's picture
There has to be a reason why the Habs have trouble attracting star players. For one there is so much pressure in Montreal from the press and the fans. Also the taxes in Quebec are also a major deterent to our money starved hockey heroes. Money is the major concern of most players these days and loyalty is secondary. I wish for the days of the Rocket to return and when real legends played the game.Team loyalty was important and they played their hearts out .Now if a player gets injured they go to the dressing room and sit out collecting their huge salaries. One time we saw a lot of pride and courage on the ice. Two Habs that currently exemplify loyalty and courage would be Begin and Koivu. Anyone agree with my choices?

nfldanchor's picture
It does'nt matter if it was Ryder ,Tucker ,Leclair or Roy or whether or not hes from Newfoundland. I dont think he was treated fairly by the Habs and I still blame Carbonneau for placing him in the doghouse early in the season . He broke up the number one line and that may have cost them an even better season than they had. They may have went even further in the playoffs when their powerplay dropped off and Ryder could have been there putting the puck in or at least getting shots at the net. It doesnt matter who it was I would still say the same thing. There were instances back in the eightys when Lafleur was mishandled and had to retire only to return after a couple of years layoff to the Nordiques and Rangers. I'm not comparing Ryder to any of these other players, but the past few seasons he was their clutch guy when it came to scoring goals. So what changed for him? He still has talent and it will show with the Bruins. We are all happy with the Habs this past season ,but fans dont have to agree that everything was done right. We can be even better than last year with a few changes. I believe Tanguay will more than fill the score sheet and I think the Habs will be better than ever. People take it wrong when you suggest a player was mishandled last year . I think Higgins would have been much better if the chemistry wasnt tampered with also and Koivu.So please dont bash me again for my perspective on last season and I'm looking forward to aneven better season next year.

FORD TOUGH's picture
The Fans in here can Praise Carbonneau & Gainey all they want. Carbonneau is an IDIOT. Just like many players that were forced out of Montreal because of the Coach, Carbonneau is another one. Gainey is a Great Man BUT he will not lead Montreal to the Promise Land. Carbonneau has always had the "I'm better than you" attitude. He has always had a chip on his shoulder. He went up to Montreal and felt he had to be on the first line. He had attitude in Dallas..... Montreal Management have always traded away star players and will do again. Former players on Montreal should never coach that team. It never works out....

What are you talking about? Tremblay gave Colorado 2 Stanley Cups.. Read up on your hockey history. "Give Koivu a Lifetime Contract"

von's picture
""I'm sure we can reach up. We have the money and some room left. I'm sure they'll figure out something. I don't think he's going anywhere."" Carbo, you better pray Komisaurus doesn't go anywhere!!! _________________________________ "Obviously it would be great, but they don't really hang conference titles in this rink. They raise Stanley Cup banners." - Carey Price

The Cat's picture
I dont dislike Ryder but the edge has to go with Tanguay for the simple reason that the western conference is much much tougher. If my memory serves me well, out of all the teams in the eastern conf. only Pittsburgh had a winning record against the western conf. this past year. Washington I believe was .500, the rest all had losing records.

Lee Hayes's picture
I noticed that you decided not to compare their +/- stat's....I wonder why? Go Habs Go

Tanguay had 23 more points in 2005-06 Tanguay had 23 more points in 2006-07 Tanguay had 27 more points in 2007-08 An huge improvement in anyone's minds to be sure. I don't quite know what you are getting at here?

A. Berke's picture
he's posting that because: a) he's from the rock and a member of the Ryder chorus line and wants to bash Gainey for letting ryder go b) he, like a few other "usual suspects", is trying to bash Gainey in his inane ways c) all of the above. I would leave you the choice but I'm inclined for the (c) option ;-) A last note: It appears to me that folks from NL seem to be hellbent in advocating Ryder and lament the loss of him to the bruins to no end. Folks, if you can (or able to) try to see a bit clearly, try to remember that Ryder had a lot of opportunities early on in the season in the first line and in the PP and in PT, but month after month he didn't or couldn't produce and accordingly was demoted in playing time and line. You guys seem to think that the job of Habs Management is (or was) to prop up your NL idol at whatever the cost, but you are WRONG. The best players of the moment should get to play and the choice should never be on the basis of past accomplishments. Ryder is gone, so wish him good luck where he is and stop the BS postings, enough already, OK? The NHL managements who cater to past accomplishments of a player are the same ones who are paying nowadays exhorbitant sums to UFA players who mostly, now are no more than average or even mediocre. I'm glad that Gainey and his management team is not like that and that's why we'll have a very good/excellent team for quite sometime to come. If you don't like it, go cheer for the laffs with their finger et al. To all other posters: Sorry for the long post. Cheers, Ali B.

Ed's picture
Ali, you are putting all Newfoundlanders in the same boat. I, for one, have always been a Habs' fan, and always will be, but I am glad for Ryder's sake that he is gone to the Bruins. I would never want to see him have to endure another season like the one he just had. I also wish him the very best with the Bruins, and unlike some on here, hold no ill will toward him because of his poor season.

I don't get it "Give Koivu a Lifetime Contract"

Lee Hayes's picture
Thankfully, there have been a few rightous, clearminded poster's from NL on the site recently. So we wont be inclined to paint the entire province with the same brush...but your point is well taken. "Water anvil" and his cohort's do appear to be having a hellavu time letting it go, as if Mr.Gainey has personaly shamed them for letting Ryder go. I myself am disappointed to see him go, but the truth is that he didn't produce. Go Habs Go

A. Berke's picture
I stand corrected Lee. I didn't mean everyone from the Rock nor I wanted to paint all NL'ers with a broad brush, but the ones I have referred to appear to be very persistent. Ali B.

Habsfan-Kenny's picture
I have an idea for lines. I know many of you don't want to break up the top line of AK46, Pleks, and AK27, but Carbo sounded pretty positive about the likes of sundin coming to the blu blanc et rouge. So if he does, here a pretty solid lineup. Tangauy-Sundin-Kovalev --- Wicked 1st line with 3 potential top NHL forwards. Sundin and Kovalev can shoot really well, and Tanguay has the dangles. What defense would stop that scoring machine? A.Kostitsyn-Koivu-S.Kostitsyn --- Although seen little of it, we all know that the Kostitsyn brothers pass very well together, and always know where each other are. Also, with Koivu at centre, he will be a good example setter on both the young Kostitsyn's Higgins-Plekanec-Latendresse --- Probably one of the best third lines in the NHL, with Higgins and Latendresse having natural scoring touch, and Plekanec, a 69 point getter, can feed them the puck and also has a good scoring potential Kostopolous-Begin-Laraque --- Nothing else to say but, boom. Kostopolous and Begin can dig in the corners, and feed it to Laraque who likes to stand in front of the opposing teams goalie. Laraque could also keep up with goons who try to start up with the smallers, Begin and Kostopolous As for Defense and Goalies, it pretty much stays the same. Markov-Komisarek -- Great Chemistry last year and Komisarek can take out the pests and the other teams top player(s) for the whole game Hamrlik-O'Byrne -- Played together for a bit and both are bone crushing hitters. Hamrlik can also shoot the puck on the point, and maybe replace Streit on the PP. Bouillon-Gorges -- Also, very good together, and Bouillon is a nice guy who will make Gorges a very good D soon. Goalies Price - Showed last year that he IS the number one goaltender when Huet got dealt on the trade deadline. Denis - A solid backup goalie, who can play some NHL games, and give Halak some more time to redeem himself in the minors. *Please reply to this because i think this is a very solid lineup. If you think there can be any changes tell me.

Greg's picture
Everyone scores with Saku Koivu. Even Lats. What about Kyle Chipchura? Max Lapierre? I imagine these guys will split duties on the 4th line? I see no reason why one of those guys (Laraque?) can spend some time with Higgy and Saku on a line. The gameplan for that line should be: Laraque-make room. Higgins-Get open in the room offered by Laraque. Saku-find Higgins.

ReverendJim's picture
I would have to agree on most of your lines... One downside : AK46, Koivu and SK...that to me, doesn't fit well. I don't know, something tells me Koivu wouldn't necessarily like playing with 2 "kids"...Allthough he didn't hate playing with Latendresse...we never know! The other thing, I would definitely keep Halak permanently in the lineup. From what I've seen, he's more than ready to be backup goalie in Montreal and he can be a great trade bait to get a player in during the season (if injuries occur etc). Then, and only then, would I call up Denis to be backup. Halak has had enough time in the minors.

RetroMikey's picture
Sundin is not coming. Why is it that everyone thinking he is? On to Plan B without him. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

jrshabs1's picture
How do you know that Sundin is not coming to play in Montreal next year? Plus, why do you pretend to know more than Carbo regarding Mats Sundin?

RetroMikey's picture
I'm not pretending. Face the facts. March deadline of this past season we had a great opportunity to snag him before the playoffs. Sundin did not waive his no trade cause, kept saying he wants to retire as a Leaf, that Toronto is the mecca city of Hockey. No. 2 Draft Day 2008. Fletcher boasted to the media that we had exclusive rights to negotiate with Toronto to land Sundin in Montreal than the rest of the NHL teams for a second round pick which was all a bunch of nonsense. Fletcher gave the Rangers negotiating rights as well. Sundin, if he wanted, would sign in a heartbeat for 7 million considering Bob went accross the ocean to visit Mats and attempt to pursuade him to play for us, a team that is a contender in the Eastern conference and a legitimate shot at a Cup in our Centennial year. Still no answer from Mats. I have said all along that he he will not sign, he's quite content to retire as a Captain for the Leafs than win a Cup with us. The facts are all there. Don't keep your hopes up for him to arrive. To win a Stanley Cup in Toronto is more special to Mats than to win one in Montreal and to go back in Toronto wearing a Habs jersey??? Mats would never do that, he would be booed by all those Leafs fans wearing his No. 13 jerseys at the ACC. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

jrshabs1's picture
Why would you argue the fact that Carbo said he likes the chances of Mats Sundin signing in Montreal? Who would know more about player/team negotiations .. you or the head coach of the Montreal Canadiens? You sound like you know Mats personally and if you do I will appologize, but I don't believe you do. If you are a Habs fan you would welcome the opportunity of a player of Mats Sundin caliber to play for your team, I do. When Mats signs with Montreal please don't be one of the knuckle heads that boos him when he touches the puck because if you do you are one of the reasons that players do want to play here. P.S. Bob Gainey never went across the pond to talk to Mats

Bob did not go across the ocean from what I recall.

Good question.

Xtrahabsfan's picture
I will bet any one of you guy's and gal's that Latendresse has a breakout year.

Greg's picture
I'll take that bet.

RetroMikey's picture
I hope so, the kid has matured, now onto his 3rd year in the NHL. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

slamtherimtim's picture
i'll be the first to take that bet

Drive_For_25's picture
I hope so. Improved greatly by the end of last season and was actually beating people to a few pucks in some big games. I hope he really focuses on his skating becuase if he gets that going he will be a totally different, and much much better player.

I fully agree, especially if Sundin shows up in a Habs jersey!

Robert L's picture
No bet here. I say 23 goals.

ReverendJim's picture
I say 20 goals and 40 points...

William_Holden_Is_Hot's picture
yeah about that. he will be his hot and cold self but will end up with a nice amount I think.

For those of you that think Carbo is learning after two years, consider this: Mathieu Dandenault: "The season doesn't begin until October and he's still a member of the Montreal Canadiens. With the kind of schedule we're going to have, we'll need more than 20 players. We were extremely lucky last season to avoid serious injuries, and we'll need depth in our lineup." Why would he not simply say : "We have Mathieu Dandenault, a proven versatile player that gives us options and has proven his worth to the organization" Remember we pulled the plug on Grabovski after his meltdown in Phoenix and he is gone. Dandy was a good soldier when he sat late in the season, you would think the coach would be positive on all the current rostered players, that is what a seasoned coach would be. The one thing Carbo did hit on was the teams ability to avoid the serious injury bug, Ryder, Dandy and others were victims of having a healthy team for most of the season, look at what Julien had to deal with in Boston.

SmartDog's picture
I agree. I like Carbo but his one flaw is a pretty glaring one - he says stupid things at the wrong time... "Carry is rattled..." man that was stupid. ~Listen to the smart dog!

Can't wait for Carbonneau to try Tanguay on defense. And Laraque on defense... and perhaps Kovalev too.

Maffu's picture
Habsville- A surprise will be just that! The top 6 forwards are set. Kovalev, Koivu, Plekanec, A Kostitsyn, Higgins, Tanguay. The rest will be set at camp with whoever shows the most drive and the work they've done over the summer. Begin could lose his spot. I see Ben Maxwell getting called up sometime during the year if any of the 3rd or 4th liners get injured. If Chipchura doesn't make the team out of camp then he may become trade material at the deadline. **Does anyone know if Ryan McDonagh will be playing another year in Wisconsin??

habs-13's picture
I think you should replace Higgins with S.Kostitsyn as Higgins is more of a two-way player and can play on the third line in a more defensive role with PP time. Also, S.Kostitsyn can play right wing.

Maffu's picture
Good point. Let's consider the team having top 7 forwards then. Higgins could easily pot 30 with the amount of shots he took last year. Thats why I see him in top 6. Sergei has only played a year and will be great.

doug's picture
McDonagh is going back to Wisconsin. See Boone's articles before and after this one.

Maffu's picture
Ok, not bad then. One more year there and a year in Hamilton he'll be good to go, maybe learn from Markov for a couple years.

likehoy's picture
i like how carbo said komi's not going anywhere...good to know.

SmartDog's picture
Yeah, let's hope he's right - that with the Sundin comments... all good. I was not a huge proponent of signing Sundin - but I'm being won over. Sundin would be on a mission to win a ring. And when I think of Komi, Laraque, Hamrlik, and Sundin added the toughness of this team would be awesome... ~Listen to the smart dog!

Chuck's picture
There's a lot of toughness on this team besides the ones that you mention. It's more important that they play tough as a team, and not leave that aspect of the game up to just a few players. And by toughness, I don't just mean the willingness to drop the gloves. Mental toughness and the desire to go the extra mile, finishing checks, etc. is equally, if not more important. __________________________________

SmartDog's picture
I was figuring someone would point that out - Boulon, S Kostits, Koivu, Lapierre, O'Byrne... all are tough in different ways, but you could probably name a lot of other players too. Point is that you need big physical toughness to keep the smaller guys from battling when they shouldn't. ~Listen to the smart dog!

doug's picture
Carbo's comments about Laraque made me a little scared - seems like a lot of money if he can't play regularly. Of course, Bob will let him know what he must do if anything untoward happens.

Maffu's picture
Would it seem like a lot of money if Dandenault never sees the ice and Laraque is there cruising around?

Robert L's picture
Good point, there would be just as much money not dressed. The flipside is that depth is expensive and Dandeneault is a veteran that is smart enough to know what's good for everybody and put the team first. That is not be confused with Dandy being the ideal extra man at that price, but it might be better than alot of other options certain team's have.

likehoy's picture
he just doesn't want laraque thinking he has a free ride cause he's the only fighter... keep laraque fresh and hungry...it's carbo's style as he rotated all his 4th liners. there are plenty of teams in the east that we don't need to put in an enforcer...for example buffalo, pittsburgh, ottawa to name a few.

Laraque will play 60% of the games at best, there will be nights where speed will take a priority over toughness. A solid addition that serves a need but a role player is just that, nothing more.

the real vinnydj's picture
Buffalo - Andrew Peters (Goon) Pitt- Eric Godard (Goon) Ott - Winchester, Neil, Jarko Ruutu (Goon, Pest, Pest)

likehoy - I certainly hope Laraque is in the line up against Ottawa and that twit Neil and all his intimadation and the other teams Pens and Sabres it depends if they dress Godard and Peters, I don't expect Laraque to be in the stands very often this year as he can play and add what we don't have.

SmartDog's picture
Juest saw that Tampa Bay signed Recchi. ARRGGHHH... not to put a damper on things but this is my ONE remaining concern about our team.... not many cup rings in the room. Not many veterans who know how to stay calm in the face of the Stanley Finals... the downfall of the Pens this year. ~Listen to the smart dog!

SmartDog's picture
Thanks for the shellacking y'all! Ouch! It's reassuring no-one else is concerned... and there are certainly enough rings in the organization. My guess is we'll pick up another veteran between now and February. ~Listen to the smart dog!

the real vinnydj's picture
But when our boys are skating back to the bench, they got a few rings (in suits) staring them right in the face.

Connecticut Man1's picture
Send all of the Habs one of these...

G-Man's picture
Too funny, C man. Gilbert 2008/09 is the season of the Habs

Robert L's picture
Another Habs blog! Good luck with it my friend! Make sure to pop all your links in here so we can all keep tabs on it. I'm looking forward to all the interesting things you will have to say.

Connecticut Man1's picture
We are getting too close to the political season here so it won't be too active for a while. And I planned on using it more as an outlet for fun (on my part) than for anything too deep in thought. I took a break from politics during the playoffs and, again, during the FA frenzy more as a distraction before things really start happening on the campaign front around these parts. And I am certainly grateful for the pleasant distraction that this place has become.

doug's picture
Checked out your blog profile and keywords. Noticed two things: (1) like your politics, especially for a military man, and (2), your last interest is a truism!

Connecticut Man1's picture
I am just your typical Veteran activist (I was US Army Infantry). US soldiers are just as split politically as the American public is. I had to check what was my last interest listed was since I wrote that profile a few years ago... And yes it is! lol

I echo Doug's comments above.

likehoy's picture
not enough cup rings in the room... how many do gainey, jarvis, carbonneau and muller have together?? add in dandy briser and kovy... i understand there's never enough rings in the room...but often a player that can contribute (fit into short term and longer term plans) and give us the experience necessary are hard to come by... mark recchi is a great player but at who's expense do we cut into for recchi's experience? we already have 6 wingers (sk, ak, lats, higs, kovy, tanguay) that can play on our top 2 lines easily...a solid 1-2 punch in the middle (koivu, pleks, not the best but good enough) and 2 depth centres (chipper, laps) and our grinders (begin, laraque, kosty)...recchi would be pushing one of our 6 wingers into a 4th line role which we have enough players to fill those roles already...if recchi could play centre...then it'd be a lot different considering laps is alright and chips still needs development. only place imaginable to fit another player is on defense... and when we win the cup you can add in another 25 rings onto our team :P

doug's picture
I think this is a grossly overrated quality in general, and especially overrated when applied to Mark Recchi, an aging forward whose Cup was years and years ago. Veteran presence I can buy, but in terms of Cups, Pittsburgh (an outmatched team as pointed out by ebk independent of veteran players) had Gonchar who'd been to the finals, Sykora who has won with the Devils, Roberts who won with the Flames, and Daryl Sydor who'd won with the Stars and Lightning, I think. We have Tanguay, Kovalev, ?Brisebois (not that I want him), and Dandenault, not that any of these guys are the character leaders - of course it's nice to have Koivu and his Olympic gold medal and proven playoff performances. Amazingly, only a couple of years post a Cup, Tampa Bay only has St. Louis, Lecavalier, the aforementioned Reccchi and Roberts unless I'm forgetting someone. Oh, and a goalie that played in the Cup finals who's ~50, through a hissy fit when replaced by Huet, and is their starter, made all the more alarming by their no-name defense. Bottom line, I'm not listening to the smart dog on this one, although I am usually a subscriber.

Robert L's picture
Are you forgetting three years ago with the Canes?

doug's picture
i think the answer is self-evident ;)

that and Detroit was a much better hockey team.

Ian Cobb's picture
Dave N ---Glad you are on board for the Bar.B.Q. July 26 don't forget the water is wet.

Chuck's picture
Ian, I'm looking into booking off the 26th for the drive up to your place. Hopefully the boss feels generous! __________________________________

Carbo should have known better than to say he had a good feeling about Sundin. Doesn't he know what that does to this city?? ;)

Connecticut Man1's picture
LMAO!

nfldanchor's picture
Tanguay was huge force when the Avs won cups in the past. He was great with Sakic and on the powerplay back then. Hopefully he has found a place where he will be used properly and excel. He may even be the player Koivu always needed to boost his career once again.

coutNY's picture
I was re-watching the Avs run to the cup and I would agree if Saku can bring out what Sakic brought out in Tanguay, I think well be in for an exciting year.

Wow, has anyone taken a look at Tampa Bay's absolutely pathetic defence corps? These are their players on D Matt Carle Philip Kuba Shane O'Brien Paul Ranger Alexandre Picard Mike Lundin Doug Janik WOW! Maybe they would like Dandenault?

Mikeishockey2's picture
Their goalie situation is terrible too.

Robert L's picture
The only way that bunch will keep the GAA down is if they sign Fat Bastard as goalie.

Ian Cobb's picture
You calling me names Robert!

Robert L's picture
No, just trying to get you a contract, Ian!

Don't they have him in Olie the goalie? I always remember seeing him when I was younger on a hockey card eating a hot dog. The funny thing was that the stands were almost full at the time!

Robert L's picture
I had that card! I relish those days!

Chuck's picture
Groan... very punny, Robert! __________________________________

Robert L's picture
Sorry. Have to catch up to another post now!

Cable Guy's picture
I'm pretty sure something was said between sundin and gainey along the lines of "When I'm ready to play I'll sign with you but I just need some time." Take as much time as you need.

Connecticut Man1's picture
From what I have read everywhere I think a more realistic hope is that he will sign here IF he returns, not when. But I am optimistic in the hopes that he will want that Stanley Cup added to his resume. One of the articles (I forget where?) insinuated that there was an off-ice/personal issue that Mats was dealing with. I am guessing that Gainey may have an idea of what it is...

twocents's picture
Thanks for the post Mike, it's great to hear Carbonneau sound so calm, cool and collected. Reading between the lines, this,"The season doesn't begin until October and he's still a member of the Montreal Canadiens." doesn't sound like Dandenault is going to be the seventh defenceman.

nfldanchor's picture
I hope we get Sundin ,then we will be a contender for sure. With Carey Price between the pipes and Halak as backup we are in great shape. Tanguay will excel with the Habs speed and fast paced style. Carbo hopefully learned a lot from last year and will hopefully get his line combinations together early in the season. I was a little harsh on Carbo in past postings, but I am excited about his enthusiam and train of thought going into next season.Go Habs Go!

Moey's picture
Carbo won't get his line combos together early in the season, get used to it, he models himself after Bowman, who in fact was endlessly critiqued for juggling lines. Juggle away Guy, roll your four lines, in Guy and Scotty we trust.

Robert L's picture
Gotta roll with the changes. That's coaching. Damn, I matched lines in Bantam with 16 year olds. I could never understand why it frustrates fans.

Moey's picture
I don't either, the kovy line stayed together because it consistantly produced, the rest were expendable, crap what I know about hockey could be written on the back of a postage stamp, but that was pretty darn obvious.

twocents's picture
That's right, lines should stay together because they are working, if they aren't, it is often a relief to the players involved when things are changed up a bit. Some fans confuse this type of thing with demotions, which are a different thing altogether. I think we have seen Carbo avoid talking about first and second lines for the very reason that he wants to be able to move players around without looking like he's unhappy with a specific player. When that's the case he makes it obvious to them.

Robert L's picture
It's not only that, they also have to be adjusted as games go. Matching lines for speed or grit, players having off nights, the score of the game itself, all play into what a coach does here. If a coach just keeps his lines intact and rolls them despite the game's tempo, he simply isn't coaching.