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posted by Dave Stubbs at 17h33 EST on May 1
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I posted this yesterday...seems like it applies even more to today's posts.
Forgive the repitition:
I've just spent around an hour catching up on all the posts on the last 4 threads...and boy o' boy did it start to get to me, seems like we have 4 or 5 posters who do nothing but bait people with the same broken record of aspersions concerning many of our players, our coach, and even Bob Gainey fer cryin' out loud. And some posters unfortunately took the bait, while I don't condone some of what's been said, I can understand the passion.
This site attracts predatory fools. One trick ponies with alot of time on their hands(prisons should really monitor internet use). That being said, you can always count on the old guard to come through in the end. Putting the "broken record" crowd in their place with logic and class might not accomplish anything, but the effort is noble.
I watch the games, I yell and swear at the TV and the players therein, I bitch to my wife...I even have taken to calling a certain player "hands of stone"(I'm sure a few of you will catch that reference). But one thing I don't do is badmouth the boys or coaching staff in public. Call me a glass is half full guy if you want, but I don't want to waste anyone's time on this site by having them read repetitve drivel, or destructive critism. Constructive, erudite, well thought out observations...absolutely!
There appears to me to be several different types of posters on this site, and I'm firmly in the "thinks before he posts" class. I'd suggest that people take the time to really think before they type, especially when the other guy/gal is trying to get some attention, that way maybe if they don't get a reaction they might just go back to pulling the wings off flies.
And by the way..Carbo gets my vote for the Jack Adams,look for my post under that thread if your interested(I figured there's no point to posting it here as well).
Go Habs GoGo Habs Go
TSN says montreal will start Price on Saturday night tsn.ca
Go HABS Go
#25 in 09
And playing goal for the Montreal Canadiens Saturday night... Les Kuntar, Randy Exelby, Doug Soetaert, Jocelyn Thibault, Vince Riendeau, Stephane Fiset, Andy Moog, Jeff Hackett, Patrick Roy, Andre Racicot, Pat Jablonski, Brian Hayward, Steve Penney, Richard Sevigny, Denis Herron, Rick Wamsley, Ken Dryden, Wayne Thomas, Michel Plasse, Michel Larocque, Denis DeJordy, Phil Myre, Charlie Hodge, Rogie Vachon, Gump Worsley, Jacques Plante... Carey Price. Ugh.
ya know what the most amazing thing is... on all of those former Habs goalies?
they were all TRADED AWAY inexplicably at some point!!!
Except Price
But I'll betcha at this time next year he'll have already been dealt as well !!!
i don't know if there is a product on earth that has a shorter shelf life than a Habs Goalie !!!
probably Not !!!
It's not a knock on price, I think he's great, it's just we had a winning goalie 5 goalies ago, they've all been traded away for whatever stupid reason.
I still don't undestand why Vokun was traded, let alone the rest of them including Theodore and Huet.
Trading Hainsworth to Toronto in my mind is still inexplicable and that happned in the 30's
the year right after THE ONE IN WHICH he DID NOT ALLOW A SINGLE GOAL TO BE SCORED IN EACH AND EVERY HABS HOME GAME THAT YEAR AT THE FORUM, A RECORD WHICH STILL STANDS TODAY{SO WHAT DID WE DO?...WE TRADED HIM AWAY} !!!!
hey beofre i forget
please add GILLES LUPIEN {ALTHOUGH NOT A GOALIE}to that list WHO WAS IN FACT TRADED FOR SOME GOALIE EQUIPMENT AND A BAG OF PUCKS !!!
HE WAS A DEFENSMEN WHO, IF YA CAN BELIEVE IT, WAS FAR WORSE THAN BRISEBOIS !!!
Someone doesnb't look at the screen when he types. Oh well, I don't either.
"One face-off, one battle, one shift, one period, one game, one series at a time."
"Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?"
The only advice I can give the Montreal Canadiens for their game tomorrow, is stop with the blind passes. Kovalev is king for that... Just passes it without looking... Can't do that in playoffs...
And no I am not ripping Kovy. I am just saying he should try to keep it a few seconds more...
Players win games, teams win championships.
- Bill Taylor
I don't know a lot about Malone other than he's big and seems to put some points on the board. Sure hope the team can up with somebody with some size and grit. Remember...they made an attempt to get Jason Arnott, a big forward, but that fell through....... If they have to get smaller guys I hope they can find some with Saku's heart..................
I don't believe Montreal's problems stem from the lack of work ethic. 80% of the goals for the Habs in this series have been scored as a result of their own creatation, through key faceoff wins or on giving aways and take Aways:
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Game 1
Scored BY-9:44...GOAL..MTL #46 KOSTITSYN(4), Snap, Off. Zone, 28 ft.
Created BY-9:41..GIVE...PHI GIVEAWAY - #17 CARTER, Neu. Zone
Scored BY-16:03..GOAL...MTL #27 KOVALEV(3), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 3 ft.
Created BY-15:57..TAKE...MTL TAKEAWAY - #27 KOVALEV, Def. Zone
Scored BY-19:31..GOAL...MTL #27 KOVALEV(4), Wrist, Off. Zone, 35 ft.
Created BY-19:28..FAC...MTL won Off. Zone - PHI #17 CARTER vs MTL #11 KOIVU
Scored BY-0:48..GOAL...MTL #6 KOSTOPOULOS(3), Wrist, Off. Zone, 17 ft.
Created BY-0:38..GIVE...PHI GIVEAWAY - #18 RICHARDS, Def. Zone
Game 2
Scored BY-16:18..GOAL...MTL #11 KOIVU(1), Wrap-around, Off. Zone, 7 ft.
Created BY-15:40..FAC...MTL won Off. Zone - PHI #18 RICHARDS vs MTL #11 KOIVU
Game 3
Scored BY-7:29...GOAL...MTL #14 PLEKANEC(2), Slap, Off. Zone, 3 ft.
Created BY7:19...GIVE...PHI GIVEAWAY - #21 SMITH, Def. Zone
Game 4
Scored BY-12:59..GOAL..MTL #14 PLEKANEC(3), Tip-In, Off. Zone, 9 ft.
Created BY12:53..FAC...MTL won Off. Zone - MTL #14 PLEKANEC vs PHI #48 BRIERE
Scored BY-13:36..GOAL...MTL #11 KOIVU(3), Wrist, Off. Zone, 10 ft.
Created BY13:21..GIVE...PHI GIVEAWAY - #48 BRIERE, Off. Zone
ONLY two other types of goals were scored occurred for Montreal, my conclusion is we need increase the PUCK control Quality. Better stick handling, Passing, and patients with the puck while tightening up the Nuetral zone defense. WE are a -60 in the GIVE/TAKE area.
So... 80% of Montreal goals were scored by GV,TK or FACE wins while the opposition has 50% of their scoring resulting from these type of plays. This also suggests the obvious that were not getting as many garbage goals as our oppoinents because of good goaltending.
PENALTY KILL
Knowing that the Flyers had been the second best Power Play team in the league, and has been still working in the playoffs unlike the Habs, we need to get better on the Ice Against in the PK area. Philly has scored four PP goals while our 2nd (Defensive) Power Play unite Hamrlik and Gorges have been on the ICE 3 of the 4 goals. The other goal was on Markov and Komi. The end of the regular season we saw inprovement in the PK Area and the Defensemen I remember stepping up were O'Bryne and Boullion... Maybe its time to unite them in short-handed situations. For Forward 50% of the goals were scored on Lapierre/Bégin and SMOLINSKI/KOSTOPOULOS. Maybe Higgins since hes struggling Offensively should be given more of a role in this department? Plekanec also with his deminished PP role as a partner? Both these players are defensively sound and Leaders with a Positive GV/TK turnover ratio department. Others like Kovy and Koivu would be hard to justify increasing their roles while already earning increase Even strengh and PP minutes.
Simple hockey is the key to scoring on Brion. Screening his vision and moving the puck East to West and working for rebounds. In a closely fought battle, it's the team with the fewest mistakes that usually wins the fight.
So these were a Few of my obsevations but still hard to believe were losing a series when their seemingly outplaying your oppoinent!
Go Habs Go!
Wondering.......unrestricted free agent season coming up before long. Anyone got favorites to go after?? I see Ryan Malone...big kid who can play, is a UFA, for instance.
Dodger - Good subject and the free agent market is weak this year : IMO - Top 6 forward - Brian Rolston - Andrew Brunette - Martin Straka - long shot - Jason Williams......Bottom 6 forward : Chris Kelly - Craig Weller - long shot - Eric Nystrom......Reserve "D" man - Steve Montador - Bryce Salvador - long shot - either Brookbank brother. Some of my picks are based on what we lack as a team and of course money.
NM49 - I look at that list of names and I see nothing. Straka is a real possibility and might sign for just one or two years but I don't see him leaving NY so he doesn't count. I don't want to spend the (long term) money on Hossa and Gainey will be one of the last GM's to break the RFA signing code. Therefore, we are looking at a trade. Take a good look at Carter on Saturday night, he's the guy I'm bringing to Montreal and damn the cost.
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two four - Granted Carter would be nice and solve a big problem we have and his name was out there when they thought Forsberg was going to be a Flyer and cause salary cap problems, but i'm not sure now, i can still dream. Trades would be nice but we'll have to give up something on our roster for an impact player as our prospects are still unproven in the NHL and most of their exposure has been in the minors as that's the way the Hab's development program hurts future trades but you never know. Hossa is too expensive and a tad soft for me and our top 6 lacks grit already, perimeter boys. The free agent list is very weak and lacks what we want but we have a gap in years for forwards so i wouldn't mind picking up a medium priced forward (more sniper than playmaker) for the top six and free Higgy for what he does best (Gainey type) then add some guts at a minimal cost to support our intimidated forwards but they must be able to take a regular shift and be able to handle the press box. At least with a free agent, though not an impact player, we don't lose a roster player for the time been.
Really??? mmm... Komisarek, Kovy, Begin, Lapierre, Latendresse, Stewart, O'Byrne.... I don't know I see this list and see that we do have toughies...
Most of those players he either signed or resigned... You say he can't sign tough guys and only softies... Look at where that got Anaheim...
Players win games, teams win championships.
- Bill Taylor
To tell you the truth, I rather have smaller guys that have heart than big loafs like Hatcher that are slow and out of date...
Players win games, teams win championships.
- Bill Taylor
Dodger - Pittsburgh might due well to sign up Malone before they go after Hossa. Obviously, he would look good in Montreal - he would answer three of our needs all in one package. The only problem with this guy is that he can go south every once in awhile. Can disappear and be inconsistent. Maybe that with change with maturity plus the fact that he is experiencing a deep Stanley Cup run all the way to the finals.
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You mean...like Ryder?....
"One face-off, one battle, one shift, one period, one game, one series at a time."
"Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?"
24 - That's the dilemma that Pittsburgh faces Hossa/Malone or both $$$. You summed him up pretty good and IMO he'll sign with the Penguins cuz he's a home town boy whose father played and coached there. His bio before Crosby got there was potential offense and very inconsistent defense and he was on the market. If the Habs court Malone i hope they show him the press box cuz in Carbo's eyes he'll be an obstacle in the way of his boy Lats and we know how hard headed he is on that subject and besides i don't think Carbo will get off on Ryan's Tattoos, lol. Go Habs Go.
Jagr
one win and everything will change.
with a win by the Habs tomorrow night, the momentum shifts in Montreal's favour, and the pressure is all on the Flyers.
After having a stranglehold on the series, the pressure on the Flyers to win that game 6 at home will be huge... doubt starts to creep in and they don't want to risk having to go back to Montreal for a game 7 and so I believe they will play tight.
one win and everything will change.
Habs got to work smarter, more efficiently. Sure hope they been working on their PP and PK.
Why is Lapierre still in the series? Play Ryder.
Ryder isn't playing anymore for Montreal... especially after his theatrics during last game... Even if you add him, I don't expect him to put his heart in it... He isn't a hab anymore... Just wait until the end of the season...
Players win games, teams win championships.
- Bill Taylor
It's not the first time in the playoffs that the "better" team finds itself down 3-1. With focus, energy and finish, The Habs can still win this series.
Gilbert
Remember '71? Remember '86?
I still believe. The Drive for 25 is on! Go Habs Go!
Everytime i lose hope ... i watch this video and remember 2 of the last 3 are being played here ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZHqAesPJik&feature=related
That video gives me goosebumps. I unfortunately live in Halifax so I only get to see the games on TV but the energy seems absolutely amazing.
I went to the first game and I hadn't seen that since the old Montreal Forum. If you can get tickets go because you have to live the atmosphere...
Players win games, teams win championships.
- Bill Taylor
I have seen games at the Forum and the Bell Centre. I was actually there for a regular season game in March but it looks so much more alive in the Playoffs. A friend of mine was actually at Game 2 and he is not even a Canadiens fan (Lives in Ottawa and goes for the Avs) but he was amazed at the atmosphere and all the fans and said the place was rocking. He said it was an experience he wont soon forget!
Other than a few exceptions, it is great to see all of us get behind this team.As funny as it sounds I think this is the most confident 3-1 down team (and fan base)that I have ever seen.It really seems that the coach and players feel that they can comeback and it makes me believe.This team has given us so much this year and nothing would surprise me!GO!HABS!GO!
Dave Stubbs:
Do you know if Guy Carbonneau has used his lucky tie yet in this series?