After Thursday`s dissapointing outing, the Canadiens will look to bounce back and eliminate the Bruins on Saturday night in Beantown.
The Habs could have captain Saku Koivu back in the lineup if he declares himself ready to go after the morning skate. That would be a huge boost for the team and allow Guy Carbonneau to spread out his offensive threat a little more to counter the Bruins' defensive system.
The Bruins meanwhile will look to do much of the same things they did on Thursday night in Montreal as they look to take the series back to Montreal for Game 7 on Monday night.
Here's a look at what's being said about Saturday's game:
Good article by pat Hickey on the relationship between the CBC and the Canadiens and their fan base. As a Habs fan that has lived in Toronto and the Toronto area for the last 15 years I know how frustrating it can be to have coverage of the Leafs jammed down your throat on a nightly basis. I can understand seeing it on Sportsnet and TSN, but the CBC is supposed to be for all Canadians.
It's been almost comical seeing the CBC being forced to rely on Canadiens games, especially considering their most high-profile personality (or should I say character) is so obviously anti-french.
the game tonight leaves me with the old dilema of religion vs. sports.
Do i follow the passover seder and miss most of the game?
or watch the game and proceed to make my grandfather very unhappy?
any advice people!?!?!?!
dvr the game. insist on complete silence regarding hockey talk during seder. if at home, watch afterwards. if driving home, blindfold yourself and wear earplugs until you are led by family member into your house or apartment to watch game.
when setting up dvr turn mute on before turning on t.v. in case coverage is on game. squint eyes so that all you can see is dvr menu. do not answer phone, read text messages, or check e-mail until game is over.
celebrate like crazy at 12:15 when you realize we've won. sleep well knowing we're headed to the next series and your grandfather thinks you're a mensch.
if it's any solace, i'm a gentile and can't wantch, either. will be doing the same but watching tomorrow. you're invited over if you can get to boston blindfolded.
I suppose it would be wrong to dvr the seder and insist on complete seder silence during the game? :)
1. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
2. Josh Gorges on Montreal's attack: "They're comin', they're comin' and they keep comin'. Just line after line, wave after wave..."
to dvr the game is a definate possibility but the temptation to look at the game during the seder for just a second will always be there.
I think my best bet would be to miss the begining of the game, and when we get to the meal to eat quickly leaving me time to watch the game while everyone else is still eating.
I really do sympathize with you though. going to a seder even though you arent even jewish. why not just go to the second seder?
wasn't invited :)
i need to watch from beginning to end, so your plan wouldn't work for me. i've watched tons of games later this year and it's surprisingly effective.
good luck, komo! and happy passover.
Submitted by Hoegarden on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:39.
Many posts in last day or so hoping that Saku will save our bacon tonight and I'm afraid it's not going to be the case (hope I'm wrong of course).
Alfie tried the same (come back early) and it backfired big time, he was of no help whatsoever. Not that it would have changed anything in the final outcome.
The likes of Higgins, Kots bros, Lats etc have to do it tonight, not Saku. The message was loud and clear Thursday night; talent alone will not/not outdo hard work in the playoffs.
Go Habs, tonight's the night !!!!
Submitted by dicktracy on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 12:16.
and there we have the cold hard truth. and i also hope you are wrong.
Well, bounce back is right. We can count on Price to be solid tonight, but others like Kovalev and Higgins needs to take their game up a notch. Hopefully Koivu's back.
Although have you noticed that Carbo's system is kinda styfling? See: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/
Submitted by RudeMood19 on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:16.
LET'S BEAT 'EM
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1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.
Yes, I for one feel that it would be nice if we still had him. I also remember reading that Gainey admitted that it was a mistake to let him go. Some people will continue to bash him, including those who said that he would disappear once the playoffs started. Now he's accumulating his points against the Ducks, so I guess he's not that timid after all.
i think it was one of those "can't play with the montreal distraction" things more than anything else. he was good in the playoffs. they just chose to get rid of him at the same time as dagenais and theodore - the party triplets. too bad - he was young and we should have realized that - but i don't know if he would have been able to come out of it in montreal.
Certainly don't mean to start a useless debate - see my downer comment in response to yours below to get the paranoia REALLY going ;)
Ribiero is gone and we have to move on. Not everybody can handle the heat in Montreal. I hope he has told Ryder that things are a lot easier emotionally once you are out of that hockey hotbed.
Paranoia today, but what would you call it if the 2004 trend continued tonight? This is just a hypothetical question.
Perhaps I am reading too much into your post, but I detect a sigh of regret. He wasn't a good fit in Montreal. End of story. I'd rather look at how well players like Gorges, SK74, AK 47, AK 27, Hamrlik, and Plekanec are doing. They were all either later round draft picks that are exceeding beyond expectations, solid UFA signings or trades that worked remarkably well for the Habs. Not every player is meant to wear a Habs jersey. Others are born for it.
hey Ed - good to see you. Any stats out there to cheer us all up?
don't try this one. it's called "Julien's Recipe for First Round 8th versus 1st seed Playoff Comebacks". Check out the order of wins and losses through 5 games in 2004 when he was our coach and 2008 when he is their coach. Worse yet, check out that the little devil even has the SCORES down to the exact same margin of victory.
2004:
G1: Boston won 3 – 0
G2: Boston won 2 – 1
G3: Montreal won 3 – 2
G4: Boston won 4 – 3
G5: Montreal won 5 – 1
2008:
G1: Montreal won 4 – 1
G2: Montreal won 3 – 2
G3: Boston won 2 – 1
G4: Montreal won 1 – 0
G5: Boston won 5 – 1
If Julien's recipe continues, we should all be drowning our sorrows tonight following a three goal loss. Ouch!
Me sees the end of a trend tonight, tho.
And you talk to me about stats! How did you ever come up with that analytical, mind numbing, and frightening analysis of two first round series, four years apart, between the two same teams, 1st vs 8th, 1st & 8th winning the same games, same goal differential, etc., etc. It sure is scary for us Habs' fans, especially considering Montreal only has 3 goals in the last 3 games.
I am sure that Koivu will be back tonight, and that we will win. If not, look out for the naysayers.
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Submitted by dicktracy on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 10:24.
Just reading tsn on the Brodeur- Avery non handshake last night and tsn quotes Avery as 'i guess he forget to shake my hand'. When I saw Avery interviewed last night I thought i heard him say 'i guess fatso forgot to shake my hand', did anyone else catch that.
Lets all just remember who has the 3-2 lead. Who would you rather in goal for you Price or Thomas? As far as I'm concerned the Bruins still have nothing other than 2 wins. The Habs need to take this a game at a time and only focus on that. Forget the last game win or loose.
I agree with Blitzen skate their D-Men into the ground and good things will come.
i went to university in boston 20 years ago. i would go to habs games all decked out in my bleu blanc rouge of course and happy to cheer my team on in a light hearted way. i was smart enough not to abuse the locals, cause i knew how that would end. anyway, one day, i had nosebleed seats in the the old garden and i am sitting in front of a woman with her young son (like 3 yrs old) on her lap. all night, she was yelling "kick his f***ing ***!" "beat the crap out of that guy" etc etc. it was really vulgar, and loud, and not what you would want an infant to hear from his mom. i decided to leave early as we were up a few goals, and on the monitor as i was leaving i saw robinson take a slapshot from the blue line that hit the bruins goalie square in the mask, leveling him. i was so glad to be out of harms way at that point! man, they were tough fans!
All this stuff I'm reading about Koivu coming back...I hope it's just talk. I think it's a big mistake and could blow up in their face. I'm not a doctor, but to throw someone into a playoff game after he's only skated a few times is asking for trouble. He hasn't had a full contact practice, his conditioning won't be where it should be. I think it also helps the Bruins mentally and just makes our boys more insecure.
If I were Carbo I'd wait.... I mean if the Habs don't bring their triple AAA game tonight (and I don't mean just Price), then they've got serious issues that even a hobbling Koivu can't fix.
Submitted by WindsorHab-10 on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 09:33.
Just read an article in the Gazette about a Habs fan getting beat up in Boston by a group of Bruins thugs after Montreal's 1-0 win Tuesday night. He was guilty of wearing a Habs jersey in Boston. I hope the Habs are aware of this incident and can go out tonight and get a victory for us and our friend from Quebec. GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, this is not at all new. In response to Boone's March 8th blog entitled "shocking confession", in which he enumerated the number of reasons he likes Boston, I responded with the following (a veritable prediction of such problems assuming the Bruins became relevant as they have):
"Ok, I have to step into this one.
I lived in Montreal from 1968 (when I was born) to 1978. I moved to Boston in 1978. For the next decade I withstood psychological torment of all kinds. When I went to a Bruins-Habs games as a 5th grader, I can remember being on the T (the city's subway system) and being verbally attacked by a bunch of drunk 20 something Bruins fans for wearing Canadiens paraphernalia. My father was friends with Jeremy Jacobs' brother, a neurologist (as is my father) from Buffalo. As such, I was given first row balcony seats to a game in 6th grade, right next to the cameras in the Boston Garden. I remember the steepness of the stairs as I walked down them to our seats - only to be picked up and pretended to be thrown over the balcony by a fine Bostonian: it was terrifying. As I grew older, I got into several truly fear-inducing situations with other Bruins fans because now it was okay to more than mock and verbally assault - I was a Habs fan and that was reason for them to fight. I somehow avoided fisticuffs.
When I moved there I was a child and we were dominant. Indeed, in the 80's we would never lose to them in the playoffs. From Montreal fans perspectives it was the "good rivalry" described by JT; from players perspectives it had a good feeling on the ice. As a Boston fan it was pure hatred, embodied by the tough, drinking working class folks of Southie. I learned to hate them because they tormented me and I didn't want any one of those classless mugs to ever win anything.
I went back to McGill for undergrad and can remember the ritual of Bruins fans coming up for strip clubs and under age drinking. I remember being on a date at an ice cream place on Ste. Catherine's and having a Bruins fan walk by after the game and spit right at the window. Class.
Now the Garden has been torn down. The TD Banknorth Garden is sterile and without tradition. The cheers are silly and pathetic. The team has sucked for as long as the Habs have, but locals have abandoned them in favor of the recent champion Red Sox, Patriots, and the recent return of the Celtics. It all seems docile. It's been enough that when I've gone to the Habs-Bruins games this year I've actually missed the passion, if not the animus.
But make no mistake, at the last game in Boston this year, a small number of Bruins fans were returning. Glares were returning. Young French Canadians who don't know remember that talk is met with fists would have been introduced to the way things are handled by Bruins fans had they not equalled the latter in number. The Bruins organization remembers - drinks are limited to one beer per customer for Habs games, and Habs games only. Lucic is bringing back a bit of fiery pride. It is only a matter of time before othre Boston organizations wane and the Bruins rise.
In the context of this likely change in fortunes, my brothers and I could spend hours telling you about what it's like to be a Habs fan in Boston. It's none of the charming things cited by the uninformed. The team's fans' frustration with always being beaten by us whenever it matters is right under the surface, waiting to awake. The same type of repression and inferiority results in wars and genocide when populations feel it beyond the sports arena. Fists will once again be raised, too many drinks consumed, and someone will get hurt.
That's the Bruins organization and fan base that I know well. The Harry Sinden of the "three things you can't avoid: death, taxes, and the first penalty at the Forum". The losers mentality, boiling over into rage. Boston - great city. Bruins - an absolutely detestable bunch for which my recent acceptance has only been cultivated by the team's patheticness and the fanbase's resulting indifference.
I read a lot on hear about the "Laffs". I see how everyone hates them, and that's a rivalry based on two cities, not any recent, legitimate on-ice contest in which the one beat the other in an important game. The Bruins are different. We've been picking that scab of theirs for 60 years. Real Bruins fans absolutely hate us. Beware of your complacency, Mr. Boone."
Man do I HATE the Bruins and their classless fans. Come on, Montreal - get them tonight!!
About Kevin Mio is a Montreal Gazette editor who grew up playing hockey, watching the Canadiens every chance he could on television and reading articles about the team by some of the people he works with today. He still remembers going to the Forum with his father to watch the Canadiens and was even fortunate enough to skate on Forum ice with his minor hockey team.
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