Lapierre, O'Byrne in; Smolinski, Brisebois out

posted by Dave Stubbs at 11h29 EST on Mar 20


Maxim Lapierre and Ryan O'Byrne are in for the Canadiens tonight vs. the Boston Bruins, and Bryan Smolinski and Patrice Brisebois are out. Steve Bégin, having nursed a groin injury back to apparent health, and Mathieu Dandenault also will watch from the pressbox. Carey Price is in goal for Montreal.

Hulking Bruins captain Zdeno Chara remains a game-time decision. Sidelined for five games with an upper body injury, the Big Z skated this morning.

(And surely you remember that on this date in 1916, the season before the NHL was founded, the Portland Rosebuds defeated the Canadiens 2-0 in the first game of the Stanley Cup Challenge. Montreal came back to win their first ever Cup, in five games.)




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Smart Dog's picture
Remember Beniffer? Brangelina? Now we have Breezinski! The couple we can most live without! ________________________________________________________________ Habs Fans! The BEST fans with the best team!

Lee Hayes's picture
You continue to intrigue me.... beginboisinski, a menace to press boxes everywhere! Go Habs Go

Habsville's picture
If we get 3 points out of 4 we are fine. This will make it difficult on the Sens to catch us. I do think that NJ will win the division. They have the islander rangers, Philly 2x and Bos and Pitts to go. We have doubles with Bos, Tor, Ott and Buf. It will be hard to catch them. If we play a game over 500 we can get 100 points but the devils can play 500 and beat us out for top spot. It makes little difference because the four possible teams we could face look like Bos, Was, Buf or Philly. Which two of those will make it in? At last I do hope that when we play the leafs and when we beat them it officially ends there season.

Big Bird's picture
No complaints. Although I suspect I'm going to incur the wrath of my fellow posters when I say this but perhaps this was one game where Smolinski should play. ;-) Boston being the team that drafted him, players playing well against former teams, etc. Should be a dandy tonight. Guess he isn't playing either, eh?

Smart Dog's picture
Does one of you guys have the stats on whether Smolinski is slightly less useless when he plays the Bruins? ________________________________________________________________ Habs Fans! The BEST fans with the best team!

Big Bird's picture
3 assists in 6 games versus Bruins which isn't shabby although Chipchura got 1 goal and 2 assists in only 4 games...

WindsorHab-10's picture
That's what I'm talking about. I'd rather take my chances with Lapierre and O'Byrne over the other two any time. As for the game, big mouth and sore loser Claude Julien said that Montreal hasn't earned most of their goals against Boston but rather the Bruins simply gave them a bunch. I hope we bury him and his poor excuse of a team tonight.

Big Bird's picture
The coaching staff should simply take Julien's quote, print it and put it on the dressing room bulletin board, say nothing and walk out of the dressing room.

The Teacher's picture
To all those who complain we bash Breezer all the time. Please remember that this is now an annual Sporting Event in Montreal. Don't fight the system as Mattee will attest. It helps us get through the 6 months of winter. "Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?"

habs will loose both to boston ( LAW OF AVERAGES ) however they will win both against ottawa , hope im wrong and we win all four!

Pay Julay's picture
Figure it out puck face!!!!! Obviously you haven't watched any previous Boston games this year!!!! We own these fools!!! Take you're negativity elsewhere... Go join a Laffs blog!!

WindsorHab-10's picture
I understand what you're saying as the Bruins are due for a win against us. But to me it always depends on which Canadiens team shows up tonight because if we play our game for 60 minutes, we'll come out on top.

wd40's picture
Huge home and home against the Bruins One of the most one-sided season series in the NHL resumes Thursday night when the Boston Bruins host the first game of a home and home with the Montreal Canadiens. The Bruins have not earned a single point, and are 0-6-0 against the Canadiens this season and were outscored 32-12 in those games. Today's Poll: How many points will the Habs earn against the Bruins in their 2 game home and home mini-series? Vote here: http://hiopolls.blogspot.com _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

Hoegarden's picture
Kovy is the man to watch tonight with his 5 goals and 8 asists vs Bruins so far this year. The great Bobby Orr is 60 years young today. He probably would look fairly good playing with the current Bruins and our Sergei K is 21. I was hoping that Dandy would play (left out 12 of last 13 games). He scored 3 of his 7 goals againts the B's. @ebk I replied this morning on the other thread. Thanks for clarifying the status on Latendresse.

cautiousoptimist's picture
I gotta say, I don't understand sitting Dandy and playing Brisebois. They're both vets and you can't sit a player as much as they've been sitting Dandy without causing some serious rust. We may need the depth he brings come playoff time... www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

Sitting the vets is awful, Breezer should not even be on the team. Dandy moved to forward so Streit could play D and then Streit was moved to forward. These guys have pride and are solid players no different than the recently arrested #6. Carbo's inexperience at managing players is showing, look what he did to Ryder, he should be rotating these guys whenever he can. Dandy has a lot of playoff experience and everyone knows the playoffs are a second season. I am very nervous at Carbo meeting an experienced coach in the playoffs. Carbo has never coached a playoff game and he is highly emotional so I still se him panicing if things goes bad in round one.

not a problem, thanks for the heads up.

Habs_008's picture
This has prolly already been posted, but i just found it and read it now, about the habs and the healthy scratches this year....our health all year in total and the lack of problems we have had with guys that are not dressing. Gotta love this team and the group of guys we have. Playing as ONE unit, we couldnt say that last year. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/03/18/habs_health/

GO HABS GO Lets put Streit back on the point with Hammer and watch the top two defensive pairs rack up the points. The skilled players on the top lines don't have as many oppurtunities to score when Markov is not on the ice. I think Striet adds a similar offensive touch to a second unit if he is on the point. He just needs a little help clearing the front of the net. I think Streit and Hammer are a good pair. BRING BACK STREIT AND HAMMER Go Habs Go Somebody please forward this message to Guy...he needs to hear it.

Markov has been on the ice for 125 goals for the Canadiens, roughly 54% scored by the team. Kovalev is 2nd with 103 and Streit is 3rd with 95.

The M's picture
Markov is such a great player, it's a pleasure watching him. It makes sense he's on theice for 54% OF THE GOALS. he plays 25 minutes a night and at least 50% of every powerplay. where do you find numbers like that anyhow

from the game summaries etc on NHL.com. I have a computer program that pulls out all sorts of statistics.

Smart Dog's picture
Cool! What program? ________________________________________________________________ Habs Fans! The BEST fans with the best team!

visual basic program I created, dumps everything to an excel sheet.

cautiousoptimist's picture
cool! www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

Batalla's picture
That's a shockingly huge number (125). Not surprising, yet it does indicate that (a) Markov's been on the ice for a lot of goals against and/or (b) he's been on the ice for a lot of PP goals because he's got a +/- differential of -2!

a) 88 total goals against, 57 at even strength. b) 67 PP goals, a whopping 81% scored by the Habs His +/- is a little deceiving, same as Komisarek. The two of them are always matched up against the other teams top scoring lines. regardless of the situation the goal is scored, Markov is a an outstanding + 37. 2nd on the team to Kovalev's even more outstanding +56

Smart Dog's picture
It stuns me that some people still support Breezinski even a little bit when they have... - lousy plus-minus - sloppy plays almost every game - cheery "who cares" attitude (not helpful!) - poor point performance compared to previous seasons and similar players - slow and obviously past prime play. If you think these guys are helpful with their "veteran presence", think of them as the DNA of your future team. Do you really want the young players picking up their habits? Don't you think the young guys are as frustrated as we are they these 'veterans' quite a few bone-headed mistakes? And the OTHER reason (besides size, guts, and points) why O'Byrne is NOT a lateral move is that he is improving. Go Habs! ________________________________________________________________ Habs Fans! The BEST fans with the best team!

wd40's picture
lol... Breezinski _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

Smoke made a huge error by not clearing out the puck on the PK (it was an easy play). This possibly cost the Habs the game. Begin needs to take his high energy down one notch. He seems like a kid in a candy store out there. He's absolutely useless injured.

Ed's picture
O'Byrne in 2008 - 14 games; 1 goal; 2 assists; 3 points; +7. Brisebois in 2008 - 13 games; 2 goals; 2 points; -2. Batalla (see below)calls O'Byrne for Brisebois a sideways move, but I think it's a definite upgrade. O'Byrne, dating back to Dec 28, has now gone 15 consecutive games without being a minus in any game. How many Habs can claim that this year? Brisebois has already had 4 minus games in 2008.

showey47's picture
obyrne will also improve, breezer......well enough said. Didn't obyrne also fight 2 or 3 times in one game against florida or tampa when he broke his thumb? Obyrne doubled or tripled breezbys' entired career fight totals in 15 mins of game time.

Smart Dog's picture
LOL! ________________________________________________________________ Habs Fans! The BEST fans with the best team!

Smolinski is one those guys at a stage of his career where he probably is a good guy in the clubhouse, helps fill out the 4th line when needed, but can easily be replaced on any given game. Didn't care for his game vs St Louis. Lapierre's a better choice for these Boston games...

I agree. With all the youngsters this year I think that a big role that Smokes was asked to play was off the ice. Still, he's been brutal at times this year.

Smart Dog's picture
I can't stand the stupid smile the guy has all the time. If I was playing with him it would just bug my ***. He doesnt' seem to give a crap if he's winning - he acts like he's in a pick-up game. ________________________________________________________________ Habs Fans! The BEST fans with the best team!

The Teacher's picture
LMAO! "Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?"

the real vinnydj's picture
We practically protest to get o'bryne and Lapierre in the line up, we want Breezer and Slolinski out. Now people are complaining that Dandy and Begin are out. Are you people never happy?????? You do realize the bench isn't that long....Don't cha?

Batalla's picture
This is a good move. Smolinski hasn't played all that convincingly this year and Lapierre brings some extra speed and grit. Something we'll need come playoff time anyways. As for Brisebois and O'Byrne, I'm okay with it, but I think it's a sideways move. Brisebois is slow and make poor decisions with the puck. But I haven't seen O'Byrne do any better. Although, I'll give him the edge over Brisebois. But as long as our top line resolves their issues (http://habsbros.blogspot.com/2008/03/plekanec-attempting-to-find-manly-w...), then there won't be any problems winning tonight.

Brisebois is slow and error prone but he is also very soft. No forwards avoid his corner in fear of a big hit. Watch how many times Boston chooses to shoot in on the right side when OB or Komi are on the ice. OB is a significant upgrade in toughness and physical play over Breezer.

Batalla's picture
I certainly agree with that, and that's why I give the edge to OB. But his decisions once he wins the puck are not often the right ones. That being said, he's young and he'll get better. I suppose he's no different than Komi was when he was younger.

I welcome rationality to be of some use when selecting players to make-up the roster,... Carbo has no surprises for us tonight as he let commun sens dictate the line-up. All the players tonight have legetimate reasons to be there,... lets built or die with those valid pieces... they are what we are... enought with the bluffing.

Why would Carbo keep Dandy and Begin on the bench?? These two always kick butt when they play the Bruins! Dandy always scores on them and Begin agitates them...someone pls explain!

cautiousoptimist's picture
I gotta say, I miss Begin lately... www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

Gr8stFranchizEvr's picture
Oh, I totally remember that Portland game like it was yesterday! Uh... ya! :-)

Robert L's picture
I'd have taken a picture of Goldie Prodgers winning goal, but I was distracted by the brown and yellow images on the big screen and that Mae West looking tart on my left! Shame!

Shoowtime's picture
Breezebye is finaly out. I understand the value of a Veteran but common a guy who on a consistent basis gets beat very easely not the type of veteran we need. Smolinsky on the other hand at least he wins key face offs and and even though not as fast as he used to be can still play the PK pretty well. Breezer would better be suited driving his Ferrari on the track and leave the younger guys get the experience they need on the back end. As long as we win It really doesn't matter. Go Habs Go

New to the site. Looking forward to the banter. Hope to get the two points tonight.

wd40's picture
warning: this site is extremely addictive. i have even less of a life (during the hockey season) since i discovered H I/O last season. it's kind of frightening, actually. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

wd40's picture
warning: this site is extremely addictive. i have even less of a life (during the hockey season) since i discovered H I/O last season. it's kind of frightening, actually. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

cautiousoptimist's picture
no shortage of banter here - welcome! www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

Cable Guy's picture
Welcome to the site, you'll immediately become obsessed with the going's on here. Boone's game blog is a favorite of mine as well as his 'about last night' blogs. There is alot of really good people on here with incredible knowledge. You should enjoy it.

While people tend to harp on Breezer and Smolinski let's realize that they have contributed in ways that we cannot judge as veterans. They have also provided us with "experienced veterans" forcing the younger kids to work that much harder if they are going to play over an "experienced veteran". The competition has been healthy all season and that has been a huge factor in our success. I believe our depth and ability to make changes is the main reason we have steered clear of any lengthy slumps or down times. Breezer and Smolinski are a big part of that ability and we need to acknowledge their role and realize that they have filled it admirably. Noone (with half a brain or more) expects either of them to play like they did seven or eight years ago but they have done what was asked of them. The season is a long way from over and we are going to need these guys again so let's not get too crazy on here today.

I agree. Brisebois and Smolinski also have a very good attitude, accepting their limited role, which can't be easy, practicing hard and trying to be reasy when they get a chance to play. But I'm glad O'Byrne and Lapierre are in tonight. We need O'Byrne's size and Lapierre's gritty physical play.

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Have a great Easter weekend mr stewart and may the Habs top it off with a couple of wins!

coutNY's picture
While I do agree the "experienced veterans" offer benefits, but you also have to look at it from a point of view of what those players will not be able to offer over who they replace, than try to weigh the overall benefit. O'Bryne offers the attributed of size, grit, and intimidation. Breezer offers more offensive upside, but lacks the other attributes because he was simply not born with them. Also because of his age, he can not overcome these short-falls with quickness because he has deteriated from his younger self. Lapierre and Smolinski, while there is less of a Gap in skill set between the two, LaPierre offers the gift of youth, speed, hitting and annoyence over Smoli. Smoli, I think is a better face-off guy, but on the fourth line we need energy, someone who get under the skin, and hits to knock teams out of sync. Both offer a pretty good defensive option but again Lapierre will win the endurance race in this match-up because of his youth. If Smoli was as mean as looks he might have a role as a policeman. He looks like a badass but is actually plays more like a polite school teacher. I don't think it is fair to bash them bye any means, but I do agree on many occaisions the need for alternative solutions. These two have a lot of heart when it comes to the team and at their stage of their career I would expect them to be upset when their in the pressbox. A lot will argue that most nights these guys get dumped on or are scape goats, when in actuallity they were on the plus side or didn't play a ton of minutes or even scored a goal. These may be valid points, but conversely, when O'Byrne, Lapierre, Begin, or Grabovski have been replaced in a game that was flat or lifeless, their denying a player to bring that element of energy to the game. THe Habs, being without a enforcer, usually rely on an energy line or Big Hits to spark the team when their playing flat. Unfortunately with these articular vetrans these sparks are in short supply. I will concede we will need to play Smoli in the event of a NJD match-up. He seems to be a Brodeur killer! GO Habs GO!

Robert L's picture
I agree that they have forced the younger kids to work harder. Do you mean the ones who play alongside them that have to constantly cover their asses for their soft play? The biggest problem I have was in inserting Bryan Smolinski and Patrice Brisebois in the lineup in lieu of Maxim Lapierre, Steve Begin and Ryan O 'Byrne. I understand the virtues of keeping certain elements fresh at this time, but dressing both, combined with Halak starting against a down and out team was playing with fire while drinking gasoline. I almost blew out an eyebrow frowning over a quote on radio CKAC this morning when Carbonneau was asked in hindsight if perhaps the Habs were in fact guilty of taking the Blues lightly. He skated a Latendresse pivot around the question before polishing this turd something along these lines: "St. Louis is an opponant that we don't know very well. We don't play against them often enough to be familiar with them. Maybe the players knew the Blues weren't doing well. Things like that happen sometimes." Time For Carbonneau To Get Playoff Serious http://wwwrealitycheckeyesontheprize.blogspot.com/2008/03/time-for-carbo...

The forgotten man in all of this is Dandenault....who also has played better than Smolinski and at times bett than Kosto or even others. We have some serious depth and that is my point and these guys are a part of that. They are not the reason we lost against the Blues....are Laps and O.B. really that much of an upgrade that they are the difference between winning and losing against the Blues???The reason we lost to the Blues was a total lack of intensity and focus for two thirds of the game. It happens though. When it happens though we are fortunate enough to be able to move guys in and out of the lineup and remind guys that complacency is not acceptable and that egos must be checked at the door. You can pretty well guarantee that we will come out of the gates with emotion tonight and that is partially attributable to guys like Breezer and Smolinski. I am well aware of the problems that they have had on ice at times but even our best players have off nights and when it really comes down to it most hockey games are won on the backs of a teams better players outplaying the other teams better players. Yes, the weakest link theory may carry some weight over the long haul but if our "weakest links" are all interchangeable making them stronger after any loss then we are in pretty good damn shape as far as I can tell (I hope that makes sense). Last game it was Brisebois trying to cover for Komisarek....people say he seems to be playing injured so it is o.k. (which it somewhat is ...for now). Brisebois is an old man who has played hurt the last several years and to top it off he does it in the most pressure filled city in North America while being the favourite scapegoat of our bi-polar fan base (me included). Smolinski was a depth signing but came at a pricetag that I think has caused people to get a little more critical of him then perhaps they would had he been playing for Brisebois salary (maybe not though this is Montreal). He hasn't impressed most nights but there was that stretch a few weeks ago where he was a huge contributor and helped us in a few key victories. Hi is a fringe player at best now but if we let that be his role then we shouldn't be disappointed because if you start looking at other teams lineups their fourth liners hardly ever see any ice time and they definitely don't have guys like Dandy, Smolinski and Brisebois in their press boxes. Depth has been key to our success and will continue to be if it is to continue. Neither of these guys elikely expects to be back next year so let's lighten up on them for the stretch and realize what good they have contributed.

Krob... you are back my friend! :)

back and gone again...Happy Easter!! It was actually very busy this afternoon at the office or I'd have been back on here but anyways to all Hab fans ...Happy Easter!!!

cautiousoptimist's picture
Damn good post, krob. That kind of depth will serve is mighty well during the playoff run, when guys are playing their 100th game of the season and need a day or two off. Or if another Justin Williams decides to get frisky with his stick and starts swinging it around eye-level... As for Smolinski's pricetag, we've got $4.5M in cap space this year, and Gainey had no intention of filling it with anything else. Why not take a chance on a solid defensive faceoff-winning vet? And you're right - most other teams have fourth (and third) liners that no one has ever heard of, and with good reason. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

I'd rather have Dandy as the 7th D rather than Breezer.

Robert L's picture
Yes I'd say that Rhino and Max are a huge upgrade on Breezer and Smokestoomuch. You are correct in saying that the whole of the team came up empty, but it is the entirety of my point that when Carbo ices a lineup that includes Max and O'Byrne the team takes the game more seriously. With the seniors in there, it's like they assume they are playing a second tier team and they let down their guard.

I just realized I didn't even mention Begin.....how is that for depth???

showey47's picture
i agree with you big time, i knew the habs were gonna be in trouble because of the lineup carbo was putting in, he was taking the blues for granted. I had no problem with halak starting, he earned it. I understand that slowinski and breezer need some game time to stay sharp(i'm trying not to laugh) but both of them should not be dressed in the same game. Neither of these guys should see game time again till we clinch a playoff spot so we can rest our key guys for the playoffs.

wd40's picture
lol.. another great article Robert... you're on fire today. as you said, enough with the experiments.. let's hope this is the lineup we're going to see for the next 8. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

Robert L's picture
I was quite P.O.'d hearing Carbonneau make that quote this morning. It lit me!

Corporate's picture
Ok.. It would be a shocker if Carbo wouldn't be changing his 4th line every 3 minutes.. I love what he has done and hope he continues to give time to everyone... Lets face it, Smokes is very slow and in the last game Breezer looked tired... We will need the physical play and the energy brought in by these two players... I think Lapierre should have been included in the last game...

Anyone catch "The Spin" last night with Steve Ludzik. They did a segment on the similarities between Roy, Dryden and Price (all stuff we are all well aware of on here). Where it got interesting was at the end of the segment the shows main host Steve Kouleas asked Ludzik if he thought Carey would do the same and win 16 games this year in the playoffs. To my shock and amazement he said "YES, I think he will" . I nearly fell of my couch.

yourhabs's picture
VERY glad to see both Smoke and Breezer out of the lineup for this game. They have their moments if they haven't played in a while, but I don't believe they could play 82 games and perform like our younger guys. http://yourhabs.com - My Montreal Canadiens Blog

I am shocked! In a good way, but still completely ambushed by that decision. Wow!

The Teacher's picture
I really don't understand why some people are shocked. some people on this site overreact a bit. To each their own, but I for one am not shocked that Breezer played the last 2 games. The season is 82 games long. There are many things coaches consider. not just Ohh Breezer sucks, sit him, oooh smokes didn't clear the puck on that one play, send him to Siberia. Look at the last four games Breezer has played in. See a pattern? "Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?"

they lost 50% of them? :) Ok, ok... I get your point... Don't agree with it, but get it nonetheless.

The Teacher's picture
That's all I hoped for. For you to get it. :) You don't have to agree with it. Go Habs Go Beat the Booins. "Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?"

Shiloh's picture
Boy - both Breezer and Smolinski out. There's got to be a lot of happy campers around here.

Robert L's picture
Millions!

Habs_008's picture
why sit smokes? he had a great game the other....wait a minute! no he didnt! Good job Carbo! I hope Tommy Greek gets to play too!

showey47's picture
good moves by carbo, now if we can only get begin back in this would make up our winning lineup down the stretch. Hopefully this means breezer has met his games played quota for his contract bonus and now we can sit him for the rest of the year. But since he has played 39 games i'm guessing we are gonna see him at least one more time this season because i'm guessing his bonus kicks in at 40 or half the season which would be 41.

Would love to see Savard get roughed up tonight and maybe Bouillon can re-arrange his face a little!

Smart Dog's picture
All I can say is... Thank god Breezinski is out! Should be a good game!! Go Habs! ________________________________________________________________ Habs Fans! The BEST fans with the best team!

Chuck's picture
If Chara sits, then I'll kind of miss his "stupid-penalty-at-the-most-inopportune-time" leadership that he brings to the Booins. Let him play! . . . ______________________________________ "All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!"

Corio's picture
Chara is not a factor in the Bruins ability to play us imo, in every game he has played against us this season he has pretty much sucked. His cross ice passes are often nice little treats for our transition game..

habs33's picture
I'm glad Lapierre and Ol' Purse Snatcher are in tonight, but I think Begin would be a good fit too. He brings a lot of energy and buzz to the team. Regardless of whether Chara plays or not, we need to bring a quick tempo game tonight. No more lollygagging around in the 1st!

Robert L's picture
The purse snatcher is in, but the purse holders are out!

Gr8stFranchizEvr's picture
Nice One!!!

Whu hu! OB and Max!

HABZ24's picture
good let the big tree sit out.habz better play there hearts out 2nite to make up for that pizz poor effort last game.smoke those bruins!! go habs go !!!