Game 74: Habs tied atop East despite SO loss

posted by Dave Stubbs at 23h00 EST on Mar 18


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Canadiens' Christopher Higgins celebrates his first-period goal against the St. Louis Blues.
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The Canadiens again find themselves atop the Eastern Conference, sort of, despite tonight’s 4-3 shootout loss to the allegedly lowly St. Louis Blues.

Brad Boyes’s backhand goal on Canadiens goalie Jaroslav Halak was the only one of six shootout pucks to find the net for either team, lifting the Blues to their victory. Halak, who had a perfect 8-0 Bell Centre record heading into the game, stopped Sherbrooke native David Perron and Paul Kariya, while the Blues' Manny Lagace stymied Saku Koivu, Andrei Kostitsyn and Alex Kovalev.

Still, Montreal moved into a 90-point tie with idle New Jersey at the East summit, though the Devils have two games in hand.

The Pittsburgh Penguins remained in fourth place in the East at 89 points, 5-2 losers tonight to the Rangers in New York. The Rangers now have 85, just two points behind idle, fifth-place Ottawa, Montreal three ahead of the Senators who have one game in hand.



The Canadiens brought a 40-24-9 record into tonight’s game, light-years superior to the 29-32-11 mark of the Blues. St. Louis was hoping to avoid losing their 11th straight loss on the road, an unenviable franchise record they’ve now avoided. They now are 4-6-0 with two ties in their last dozen visits to the Bell Centre.

The Blues got out of the blocks first, ending Halak’s Bell Centre shutout streak at 86 minutes and 23 seconds on a 5-on-3 Blues advantage. With both Koivu and Tomas Plekanec in the box for Montreal, Erik Johnson drilled home a one-timer at 4:51 of the first period.

Christopher Higgins got the Canadiens even at 11:28 after some hard work behind the net by linemate Sergei Kostitsyn. The latter dug the puck out from behind St. Louis goalie Lagace, stealing it from Jay McKee, then feeding it out front into the skates of Blues defenceman Eric Brewer. Higgins alertly pounced on it and shovelled a backhander past Legace for his 22nd goal of the year.

St. Louis held an 11-6 edge in first-period shots.

Higgins did some terrific work of his own to give the Canadiens the lead at 9:32 of the second period, on the power play. Higgins took a pass from Michael Ryder and, as he was crashing to the ice in the deep slot, managed to feed Koivu on Lagace’s doorstep. The Canadiens’ captain converted the pass for his 16th of the year.

But St. Louis charged back less than a minute later, Andy McDonald firing a harmless-looking shot from along the right boards, freezing Halak in his skates to tie the game 2-2 at 10:19. It might have momentarily rattled the Canadiens goalie, who was beaten again shortly thereafter but was saved by his goal post.

Halak hadn’t a chance on the Blues’ third, Boyes standing absolutely alone at the edge of the Canadiens net when he took a cross-crease pass from Paul Kariya to stuff the puck into the empty side of Montreal’s goal at 15:57.

St. Louis led the shots 21-14 after two periods, enjoying a 10-8 advantage in the second.

Sergei Kostitsyn showed again his incredible vision and superb passing at 6:36 of the third period, whipping a pass to Mikhail Grabovski through heavy traffic on a full-speed rush. Grabovski made no mistake, drilling a high snap shot past Lagace for his second goal of the season to again tie the game and ultimately send the game into overtime.

The Canadiens came to life in the third, outshooting their visitors 13-4 to hold a 25-27 edge after regulation time.

Montreal now faces the Boston Bruins twice in two nights, on the road Thursday and back at the Bell Centre on Saturday.


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wd40's picture
74 - Games needed for the Canadiens to reach the 90-point mark this season, the fewest number of games since 1992-93, when Montreal reached the plateau after only 71 games. From: http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=... _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

Corio's picture

TommyB's picture
Just to put things in perspective, for those Habs fans who do not follow NCAA D-1 hockey....Wyman has 30 points in 32 games. Not too shabby. Maybe we will see him one day.

Hoegarden's picture
Great news; Habs have two prospects currently with Dartmouth Big Green. Joe Steskal, drafted last year is the other, read on. The Coaches on Stejskal: “Joe has so much potential. He’s a big, strong, mean defenseman who is known for his punishing style in terms of the way he plays. Joe shoots the puck extremely hard with a great release.”

TommyB's picture
What planet do you live on? Do you think this is a video game? These games are all against Division rivals, each with something to prove. If the Habs go .500 from here to the end they will have done well.

TommyB's picture
I have no idea just what you are saying. You are the one who stated that anything less than 7 and 1 for the remaining 8 games would be uncivilized. Uncivilized....huh? I assume you mean it would be unacceptable, or intolerable. Whatever, means the same thing. I think it is going to be a dogfight the last 8 games against division rivals who will be playing like their lives depend on it...and we don't play that way game in and game out. I stick to my claim.... 500 hockey the last 8 games is going to be tough enough. 7 and 1? Please!

The Teacher's picture
Planet EA 2008 :) "Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?" "Halak Price! Do you?"

Habs_008's picture
Story of a home and home with boston from Sportsnet..... http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/03/19/bruins_canadiens_preview/

showey47's picture
Chara has missed the last 5 games with some sort of chest injury. Any word if he will miss the next 2? I know we have owned the bruins with him in the lineup but it would be one less idiot we would have to worry about.

TommyB's picture
Showey, it would be nice to face a Chara-less B's team, but you just "know" the big lug will be in the lineup.

Corio's picture
Chara imo has not even remotely been a factor in any of the games we have played against them, at best he was a handicap..

Habs_008's picture
Im sure he will play, i read on TSN that he was taking slap shots for an hour. From TSN Ice Chips. After more than an hour on the ice, during which time he took some nearly all-out slap shots, defenseman Zdeno Chara looked to have a good chance to play tomorrow night against the Canadiens.

coutNY's picture
THe article states and Boston globe reporting Zdeno Chara looked to have a good chance to play tomorrow night against the Canadiens.

coutNY's picture
Opps on the double post..

Hoegarden's picture
Why, I think, some of us love to pick on Latendresse; Can't skate, no grit etc. As a strong believer in "you have to go through the ringer" classes in Hamilton, our young Latendresse has escaped the ordeal of riding the AHL buses in the middle ofl the night. Yet, our top young and not so young (Streit) guns, drafted by the Habs, have all been "polished and ready to go" at the AHL level before being allowed to wear the CH. Where would Guillaume be today or rather, how good would he actually be if he had not escaped ? Player Year in AHL games played Komi; 02-03 56 03-04 18 04-05 20 Total - 94 games Pleks; 02-03 77 03-04 74 04-05 80 Total; 231 games Higs; 03-04 67 04-05 76 Total; 142 games A.Kots 04-05 66 05-06 64 06-7 50 Total; 180 Games Lapierre 05-06 73 06-07 37 07-08 19 Total; 129 games O'B 06-07 80 07-08 20 Total; 100 games Chips 05-06 8 06-07 80 07-08 29 Total; 117 games Grabs 06-07 66 07-08 12 total; 78 games S.Kots 07-08 22 total 22 games M.Streit did his classes in Swiss-A league for 5 years Total; 203 games

Infanteer's picture
An altogether foolish argument. Of course Pleks would be more developed - physically and mentally - than Lats . . . as shown, he played 231 AHL games, about 4 seasons. 4 seasons ago, Lats was in high school. Only questions remain: do you want Lats in the AHL for the next 4 years? Would that be good for his development, or the Montreal Canadians? Lats is a child, in terms of NHL years. My dog ages slower. Although I'm nogt a huge fan of his style of play, you cannot belittle its effectiveness. Let his mature where he is . . . in a warm, well-lit place.

Your reply may be foolish. He never said 231 games was required for Lats. How about the 94 game mark (as per Komi) or the 78 games mark (Grabs). Why did you chose the extreme to make a point? And your point about Lats being in high school 4 years ago is illogical to what he is saying, 'in his opinion'. It may be too late to send him down, but Hoegarden's making a supposition about 'what if'. Perhaps it would have hindered, we'll never know. But to say that his argument is 'foolish' is to insinuate his opinions are. Just my opinion. ;)

Hard to argue that the time in the minors did not help the above players. The question I have is, who do you think should take his time on the ice. In my opinion he is among the twelve best forwards in organization

Hoegarden's picture
EBK, his time at the AHL level would have been last year(06-07). Three players played regular left wing; Perezhogin, Samsonov and Murray. Begin also logged some time on LW and so did Bonk. And since last year was not one we will remember fondly, his time in Hamilton would have benefited him more I feel; less pressure (French media) and more focus on tweaking his overall game, just like any draft choice. He's going to make it and in fact doing fairly well; 16 goals and less that 15 mins a game, playing with different linemates etc. I was just wondering why he got a free-pass and went from Junior directly to the NHL. He definitely was not NHL ready his first year.

He was unable to play in the AHL last year because he was still junior eligible. Management thought he had developed as much as he could in junior and since he couldn't play in the AHL, the NHL was the only option.

Hoegarden's picture
Thanks for the clarification EBK.

The Teacher's picture
Exactly. "Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?" "Halak Price! Do you?"

coutNY's picture
NOt sure why my post got locked out as potential spam for saying Price was getting the start against the Bruin and siting another site? Without a link?

coutNY's picture
I'll try RDS again... oh well, must have been a glitch.

wd40's picture
it's happened to me a few time when i include another site link. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

coutNY's picture
THing is It wasn't a linked post???

Hoegarden's picture
Some thoughts on last night; Signs of wear and tear from those 4 or 5 players who have been carrying the team this year were to me obvious. 1. Komi; he has to be banged up and he has to ease off a bit on blocking shots. Habs need him at 100% for the playoffs. 2. Streit; gets rid of the puck a lore more quickly than earlier in the year. His (one-timer) shot has been more off target lately. He is a tired Jack-of-all-trades. Needs a rest for a game or two. 3. Markov; the General has done it all, 5 on 5, PP, PK you name it. Carbo should give Gorges and Cube more icetime and bring O'B back now. 4. Kovalev; Every team has been ganging up on him in the last month. Any other player would be on the IRL. This dude is an ox with a big attitude. 5. Plekanek; His fatigue is showing, he no longer cuts to the middle like before. Those 5 are the key to our success in my opinion. Having Begin, Lapierre, Kosto and O'B in the lineup gives the Habs more grit. It was obvious last night without three of them. Hopefully the * will be posted next to the Habs in the standings after this week's games so our top 5 can recharge the batteries, so; As soon as we're in, forget 1st place and play Smokes, Dandy and Breezer until they drop. Play Grabs for at least 18-20 minutes and see what options he can put on the blackboard for the playoffs. Every team has their wounds to lick and although the Habs have been spared major injuries, they looked last night like they need to fill up the tank before the big dance. With this said, young Price will have a big say in how far the Habs can go. Go Habs Go !

RetroMikey's picture
Hoegarden: I've always enjoyed reading your comments, although I disagree that Begin shout sit and let us see what Grabovski and Lapierre can do for us. The old goats like Smolinski and Brisebois are going to help us down the playoff stretch and into the playoffs. You need veterans with youth! "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

THE CHOSEN ONE's picture
"The old goats like Smolinski and Brisebois are going to help us down the playoff stretch and into the playoffs". Yes, if we need some milk or Dinner...... Umm Curry Goat is good as well a Goat Cheese. The "Chosen One" has come. His name is "CAREY PRICE".

RetroMikey's picture
I'm 42 and still play hockey with the young guys in my hockey league team. Although I've lost a step, I can still play with them, but they RESPECT me! That's what players like Gorges, Higgins, etc.. do.... RESPECT the veterans on our team and get advice from them. Never hurts Chris Chelios playing for Detroit who's going to be 46. Obviously you are one of the "Pepsi Generation" fans on this site who absolutley knows nothing about work ethic in hockey. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

showey47's picture
in all due respect mikey, chelios could still play top 4 role on any team and still be effective due to his incredible dedication to fitness. smokes is a player who is not built for the new nhl and breezer is only playing hockey because bob offered him a contract. Nobody else would of given breezer a contract this season.

TripleX's picture
My father taught me that respect is something that is earned not automatically awarded due to age. How can Smokes engender respect when he has sleepwalked through 80 games this season? I agree that Breezer has earned his respect with his Stanley Cup ring and his acceptance of his part time role. Having said that he would be much better used imparting his wisdom during practice as he has become a liability on the ice.

Big Bird's picture
Great post. Agree 100%.

The Teacher's picture
100% in agreement. you hit the nail bang-on. "Are the Habs ready to pay the Price?" "Halak Price! Do you?"

HABZ24's picture
i dont get it, why do they always take garbage teams to lightly, they should smoke em, insted they play at there slack pace just enough to tryin keep even.price and the rest better smoke the bruins the next two to make up for this dismal effort.f the loonie jar. go habz go. get the killer instict boys !!

THE CHOSEN ONE's picture
"THE HABS NEAGATIVE TALK JAR" I'm starting one now. From this minute forward, any negative comments about the Habs will result in that person having to put a dollar in the above jar. All Money collected will go towards, well. What do you think that the Money should go towards? Alrighty then I'll start it off with a $100 bucks. That should pay me up until at least we play the Sens.... The "Chosen One" has come. His name is "CAREY PRICE".

We can use it to get Lats a power skating coach.Damn,cheques in the mail.

Habs_008's picture
You can use the money to pay back the company i work for...I have wasted countless hours of there time on this site......I guess they dont pay me enough not to go on here...I love it!(the site not the pay)

OK... put the money towards an HIO golf tournament this summer! if we make extra money, we can donate to the Gainey Foundation. Maybe some players could join us if they are around! Dave.... do you have that kind of magic?

TommyB's picture
"Montreal now faces the Boston Bruins twice in two nights, on the road Thursday and back at the Bell Centre on Saturday." These two games against a team we "own", should not be taken lightly by anyone, least of all the Habs on the ice these next two games. The Habs took the Blues lightly last night. Look at the result. Maybe the odds catch up to us in these two against the B's. Add to that the fact that we could be looking at a preview of a possible first-round matchup, and the games take on a new importance. Boston will come to the table with fork and knife in hand. Let's hope the Habs do too!

Oh no!... back to back games... look out for factoid man to make an appearance!

wd40's picture
hahaha... it's been a long time since we've heard from him. maybe he wore out the exclamation mark and/or question mark key on his keyboard? _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

and thats a FACT :)

TommyB's picture
Scotty, let's hope he has disappeared along with his beloved Laffs.

anyone who thinks we're beating the Sens in the playoffs, is a MORON! no grit and no heart= 4 and out in the 1st round! that's the habs. THE SOFTEST TEAM IN THE NHL!

I guess I'm a MORON! We are water where all others are rock! "In the confrontation between the stream and the rock, the stream always wins - not through strength, but through persistence". Buddha

i want to apologize to all my fellow habs brothers i opened my big mouth yesterday and jinxed us i said we'd win 6-1 and that kovalev would score 3 so i'm sorry guys it's all my fault i won't predict the score against boston i'll just say that we'll win! 1 more point about last nights game though why doesn't s.kostitsyn ever take shootouts?i remember his lazer of a shot against lundquist on that penalty shot he took and went top shelf also why didn't 2008 coach of the year (guy carbonneau) let grabovsky try the shootout he was hot and might have scored for us oh well.......what a nice option to have so many weapons.

It wasn't your fault, it was mine. If I watch the game wearing one of my Habs jerseys, they lose. If I leave the jersey in the closet, they win. Of course, I keep thinking that can't actually be happening, so I pull a jersey out of the closet. I wore one last night and they lost. I actually started out with my Koivu sweater on but reverted to the Gilmour version later in the game to no avail. It's my fault.

A. Berke's picture
Funny,same here. I'm not superstitious but every time I wear the Habs uniform we seem to lose. So, as a preliminary precaution, the uniform, has been retired for a while ;-) Cheers to better results for our Habs. Ali B.

All of this Carbo, Halak, Brisebois , Smolinski crap and you were the culprit all along. You are forgiven only for admitting it but if it happens again you will bainshed from InsideOut..... right everybody???

cautiousoptimist's picture
No worries, all is forgiven. Lately even I've been losing the cautious part of my optimism. : ) www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

THE CHOSEN ONE's picture
Carbo gets those "Brain Farts" every now and then.... The "Chosen One" has come. His name is "CAREY PRICE".

Habhopeful's picture
Im dissapointed by the game last night, again they underestimated the weaker team, I noticed that Koivu and Komisarek left Boyes ALL alone on that goal, Halak didnt have a chance, Also i noticed this was the worst game I have ever seen Akoz play, he was way off his game last night, I'm not a bandwaggoner, just a couple observations...Im looking forward tothe Boston Games, they always play good against Boston and these upcoming games should be no different... "If I wanted to hear from an ***, I would fart..."

yourhabs's picture
I'm pretty disappointed with the play by the Habs in the first two periods. I truly believe they underestimated the Blues simply because they're second last in the West. It kind of gives you an idea of how the Western Conference teams can compare to the Eastern Conference teams. These next two games against Boston should be pretty good though. http://yourhabs.com - My Montreal Canadiens Blog

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
I've said it before a MILLION times...do not expect our "Talent" style to be gooning it up for a 7 game series. Last night was another example of a team that stabs, facewashes, crosschecks, spears, slashes, hooks, punches, piledrives, Pitchforks, slams and GETS IN YOUR FACE EVERY SINGLE PLAY...and they do it all BEHIND THE SCENES, AFTER THE WHISTLE and the REFS turn a blind eye. and that was a nothing game...wait till the playoffs when they go looking to take out your KEY PLAYERS...and I mean TAKE OUT....and the refs will literally bury their whistles in the ice. yeah sure we'll get the odd power plays...but what if we don't score on the powerplay? its happened.....we need to be able to win 5-5 with our speed, but behind the play and after the whistle the goons are having FREE REIGN with their goonery. DAMN...a great talented team like ours should automatically have 2 or 3 animals to nullify the goonery. our 4th line is pathetic. KOSTOP/STRIET/SMOKE!!!!!...goons LAUGH AT US. if your going to sit OBRYNE then put STRIET to Defense...NOT BREEZE.!!! WHAT A JOKE..SITTING OBRYNE (TOUGH) for BREEZE (WET NOODLE)...JOKE! and where the HELL WAS RYDER??? he didn't even play the overtime...JOKE! yeah its only one game and we weren't in this position last year, blah blah...so lets just avoid and not talk about our deficiencies lets all put our rose colored glasses back on...ok...all is good now. --------- 1. WE ARE DEAD MEAT WITHOUT OUR OWN POLICING 1. Feb 19, 2008 - History was made. 2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev.....at his PRIME 3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans 4. We will win the CUP

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
Some Great replies below...(Scotty90/Cautious/PatS) I'm glad that this topic showed some interest because I believe that it is our single point of vulnerability. let me correct...by GOON I don't mean just a guy who drops the gloves (Peters) and does nothing else...I mean guys that can TAKE GOONERY and dish it back which NULLIFIES the goonery. example - RYDER can take GOONERY, LATRON CAN TAKE GOONERY, KOMI, BOUILION, KOVY, KOSTOP, SMOKE, DANDY....and I think thats it. now they will be slightly thrown off their game, but they can take it, and usually because of that they avoid drawing it. now...KOSTY's, PLEK, HIGG, KOIVU, GRAB, STRIET,..FORGET IT...these guys will be taken off their game...and that is a BIG PROBLEM, thats 7 talented players that play an open skating game..how do you stop them? GOON THEM. DONE...and so is our offence. So by us having an INYOURFACE line of GOON TYPES (not just fighters) what this does is when the other team puts their GOON TYPES on...we put OUR GOON TYPES ON....THATS HOW ITS DONE!..SIMPLE!...and CARB KNOWS THIS. our top 2 lines should never go up against goons/checkers...NEVER, else we're dead meat.... p.s. CountNY...check again, ANA did win because of GOONERY...they physically DESTROYED OTTAWA and everyone before them...in fact my quest for more HAB GRIT is based on what I saw ANA do last year...TALENT and TOUGHNESS with a GREAT GOALIE = STANLEY CUP. we have 2 of the 3 --------- 1. WE ARE DEAD MEAT WITHOUT OUR OWN POLICING 1. Feb 19, 2008 - History was made. 2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev.....at his PRIME 3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans 4. We will win the CUP

I don't think we need goons, we need tough, gritty, in your face stars. Guys like the Rocket. That's the type of player you need. He was the toughest most talented player on the ice. (ok, maybe not the the toughest if you include Ferguson and others, but you get my point). That's the type of player we need. Who are those guys today? Not sure, maybe guys like Bertuzzi, before the incident?

TommyB's picture
Tied for the Conference lead, leading our Division, and we fall short because we need some goons? Last night we fell short because we didn't show up for two periods, especially our "D". What this team needs is to take each game seriously and show up for them all. You can't look at the opponent, see he shouldn't be a threat, and therefore try to coast to a win. As for your rant about "goonery" inflicted upon us, well, I didn't see that much of that. Certainly not to the extent that you claim. Furthermore, in the playoffs most of that kind of stuff disappears because no team can afford to take dumb penalties when every game, every goal, means so much. Particularly against a PP as successful as the Habs'.

Agree with you Prof.. If you go back to the last 3 cups the Habs won.... who did we have on the team that could go toe to toe with the best of them and ensure a little bit of respect toward Montreal: Mario Tremblay (disturber - wouldn't back away) Chris Nilan John Kordic Claude Lemieux (s--- disturber - would not back away) Mike McPhee (strong, temper, would not back away) Larry Robinson (you never got big bird pissed-off... one of the best - ask Hammer Schultz) Kirk Muller (gritty and would not back away) Mike Keane (gritty and would not back away - throws very quick punches)) Lyle Odelein- Mario Roberge Todd Ewen May have forgotten some but you can see that Habs were well stocked. Who do we have today that will protect our stars? ... because they will need protection. How do you beat Montreal's speed? rough em' up, throw them off their game through intimidation!

Habsrule1's picture
Ridiculous post. We do not need goons....we're in FIRST place without one! Get over it! I also like how you are pointing out all of Guy Carbonneau's mistakes during a year where his team has worked hard, followed his system, and impressed the whole league. Gimme a break dude. Go Habs Go!! Habsrule

coutNY's picture
Goons didn't beat us last night... It was the play of a gritty defenseman named Jackman... We have a guy similar named Komisarek. The Goons can laugh all they want because they will be in the pressbox come playoff time. As I stated earlier it will be the gritty hard hitting forwards and D-man that will be the difference. Goons don't play with teams Offesive lines, so there not going to be on the ice in scrums most of the time unless their starting it. Goons role, as stated in an earlier post, is usually one of fighting other goons to give the team a lift when their flat, rarely one of protection. I'd rather have a gritty forward than a hired gun.

cautiousoptimist's picture
Nobody's advocating a thuggish team here - just one single guy who can fight and win most of the time. A guy who can lay it on the line and get into people's faces when they snow Price's mask, or elbow Kovalev in the head, or slash Pleks after the whistle, or jam their stick into Koivu's eye in the playoffs, or... It's painful to see them get beat up and play a more intimidated style because they're hurting - you know they're not playing to their full potential when they're black and blue and limping around the ice. And it's unfair to expect Komi, a top 2 D-man, to play big brother on top of all his other responsibilities - plus we certainly don't want him in the box for 5 minutes at a time. The tough guy is admittedly one of the more minor components in the recipe for success, but it's still one of those little things that helps a team increase its point totals and stay healthy through the playoffs - we've got most of the ingredients in place, but any cook will tell you that a pinch of spice makes the whole meal nice. And anyway, who would you rather have in the pressbox for 25 games a year: Brisebois, Smolinski or Laraque? www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

coutNY's picture
I not advicating we don't find more players that have some muscle, but a Laraque type player is not going to be on the ice with Kovy or Pleks, and I doubt he would play with a Grabby or Sergie Kostitsyn. So what he's going come on a shift later to enforce, Get an instigator penality to leave us short handed? I think we can find a better player than a Goon to waste our UFA chances on... Seeing that everyone's throwing out Laraque who Pitt probably going to hold onto... has any team taken less easy on Malkin or Crosby since his addition? If I were to want a type of player that could fix that situation its guys like Shanahan or Fisher. These guys will keep team's rough housing to a minimum while contributing in most situations because they're the guys who'll be against the opposing teams stars. Men you'll never find in the pressbox.

coutNY's picture
Anahiem didn't win in the playoffs by playing their goons. How many many minutes did Parros play last year. It was because of gritty forwards wearing other teams stars down, taking them out of their game, not dropping their gloves to swing the momentum in their favor. I believe there's a difference between a guy that drops their gloves occaissionally to stand up fo their players and a goon. A goon like Laraque, Parros, Brashier, Boogard...will not win a team cups just by their presence. Grit guys like having Anahiem's Perry, Getzlaf, and Penner last year (now top 6 players on their respective teams), who contributed other than dropping their gloves along with one of the most talented Dman Niedermayer and Selanne a near 50 G near 100 pt player is what I believe won them the Cup. The West has a "Keeping up with the Jones" mentality when it come to Goons.

gfunkdoc's picture
Good post. What you need are gritty players that can grind it out in a 7 game series. There isn't more fighting in the playoffs. To think so is ridiculous. The only time teams go out looking for fights is when a game is more or less over. They can't afford stupid penalties, nor can they afford to waste ice time on a guy that just isn't good enough (like Parros & co.). The Habs have plenty of grit in players like Kosto, Bégin, Komi, Bouillon, etc. They didn't lose last night because they are too small, or too soft. They lost because they didn't show up for the first too periods. They lost cause they are a young team that has to learn to play as well against St. Louis as they do against Boston.

the habs didnt play that great in the first two periods but if they continue playing like they did in the third, they will be unstoppable and gotta mention the toronto goal, too funny http://youtube.com/watch?v=meFICJYORvA

THE CHOSEN ONE's picture
"the habs didnt play that great in the first two periods but if they continue playing like they did in the third, they will be unstoppable" DUH !!!!! They lost to a last place team. How can they be unstoppable???????????? The "Chosen One" has come. His name is "CAREY PRICE".

von's picture
Blues deserved the 2 points, we were lucky to get one... The thing I didn't really understand was 2/3 choices for the shootout? Why A Kostitsyn and Kovy? Personally, I would have gone with guys who had the hot hands in the game... I would have picked Grabovski, S Kostitsyn or even Higgins. One more thing I don't get, is why every single Canadiens player chooses to deke in the shootout? Most of these guys have great shots, why aren't they shooting??? A guy like Andrei Kostitsyn should be burying a nice wrister, not attempting the half-assed Koivu deke... On a side note, it was a pleasant surprise to see Koivu try a new move... Maybe he told Andrei he could have the patented one...

coutNY's picture
Kiovu had him beat... and as for Kovy and A-Kos, are two of our best open ice scores. Its easy to play arm-chair QB on this one, but the Deke gets goalies out of position to open up opportunities and I would argue a higher % scoring chance. If any of the guys would have taken a outside wrister, you'd have other people saying these guys some of the most talented stick-handles in the game, why didn't they deke? Losing in the Shootout, to me, is not what lost the game.

showey47's picture
what i don't get is why carbo puts kovy third, he is the most talented and should be shooting at worst second. If st.louis had scored on their third shot kovy would not of shot at all since it would of already been over since the blues shot first. Which also makes me wonder, why were the habs not shooting first? Home team has the choice of who shoots first and stats say 80% of teams shooting first wins the shootout.

wd40's picture
"Losing in the Shootout, to me, is not what lost the game." fully agree. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

wd40's picture
yeah deke-ing looks great when it works, but i think at least two of three should just plain shoot. Kovy and Ryder have great shots. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

Joe_Habs's picture
Jaroslav is a good goalie.....but HA-LAK Price better

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groan.... ;) _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

RetroMikey's picture
Too many "Pepsi Generation" fans on this site. "We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets"

Well said Da Hema, although we did keep it close with San Jose and Anaheim. But in the end we still lost to them both. On another note,I would like to point out something I think most of us haven't realized. Every year the Habs have had to play desperate "playoff" hockey in March just to squeek into the playoffs. They've had to put together a string of victories and had to play their best hockey (AT THE WRONG TIME)to barely make the playoffs, and last year not even that was enough to make the playoffs. This year is different, they don't need to play like that this March, they've been consistent all year. They need to continue that consistency untill the playoffs start. That's when they need to play desperation hockey and put together a lot of wins to go as far as possible, even eastern conference final. We know they have it in them to play this desperation hockey,and they will be playing this type of hockey in the playoffs and not just to get in. GO HABS GO!

wd40's picture
good point & i agree. there isn't the same level of urgency at this point in the season as we have seen in past years. obviously, we can't go and give away the last 8 games, but barring a complete meltdown, we're in, and that is going to have an impact on the collective psychology of the team. i don't enjoy watching this team play a mediocre game, and i think what people (including myself) find a little unsettling, is that we're not burying teams that arguably we should. i think we'd all like to see the Habs make a strong offensive statement as we look towards the playoffs. furthermore, there's there the lingering losses to the Sens, who we will face twice more this season. overall, i think things look very good where i'm sitting, and the fact that the biggest thing we have to talk about is a goaltending "controversy" and whether or not Brisebois should be playing, etc., to me, is a good thing. this team has done remarkably well this year, and i applaud their consistency as well as their resiliency (only team in the league not to lose 4 consecutive games). the fact of the matter is, they've outperformed most people's expectations and we're going to have hockey in Montreal well into April. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

Habs_008's picture
I agree, waking up this morning i was not too upset about that loss last nite, I know we are in the playoffs. I would like to win the division...but if we dont, it wont be the end of the world. I think we can take any team in the East in a 7 gamer. Including Ottawa!

Hoegarden's picture
The Smolinski puzzle; I can only conclude that Begin is ready but Carbo, to avoid injury, is saving him for the playoffs. If not, then there's someone else pushing buttons upstairs. Habs are 3 against 5 and Smokes tries to pass the puck to Komi in our zone with plenty of open ice to clear it down the other end. I just do not understand the "experience" factor this man has. We on a 3 on 2, Smokes has the puck and he takes himself off-side across the blue line. I do not understand this "experience", I just don't. Carbo; Please send him back to Illinois with his salary and don't call him back. Every Western Div.team has played the Habs the same way; Rough up the Habs a bit and they'll eventually cave in.

coutNY's picture
I think RDS had interviewed Begin last week, around the same time Pleks had gone through a stint with the Flu bug, and Begin stated he had recovered from the groin injury but had a run with the flu that kept him from returning. He stated he need a few days of training to get him back into game shape this week. I think he was ready to return last night but the Habs coming off a shutout victory made Carbo weary of changing the line-up. I would be very surprised if he were not back against Boston, a team were his role was very effective earlier in the year.

wd40's picture
i'm looking forward to having Begin back, that's for sure, and i'm glad they didn't rush him back prematurely. if you're right and he's in against Boston, i think we can expect a high-energy game from him. _______________________ make your opinion count @ http://hiopolls.blogspot.com

Joe_Habs's picture
First things first I just wanna say that I hate goon hockey. Hate it. But we need some type of big hitting player in the line-up, even if he just plays 9-12 minutes...he doesn't even have to be all that talented but I for one am fed up of seeing our guys go out there and get smacked around. We need someone to earn us some respect and make players think twice about being overly rough. There’s nothing wrong with being on the wrong end of a few solid hits. But when it’s clear that sometimes these guys are just out to hurt we need out own policing. Its only gonna get worst in the playoffs and we can’t afford to have our most skillful players (often the ones who rely on speed and stick handling. E.g. Kovalev Plecanec Kostitsin and to some extent Koivu, Higgins and Ryder) being knocked around and thrown of their game.I hate to say it but we most definitely are a playoff worthy team. But with this line-up I just don’t see us playing playoff hockey.

cautiousoptimist's picture
Well, there's a French-speaking bruiser by the name of Laraque who'll be a UFA this summer... I can really see the fans getting behind him. Didn't he used to have a little column in the Metro newspaper, back when he was playing with Edmonton? www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

coutNY's picture
I disagree, LaRaque is a slow skating 4th line enforcer. He probably would never be on the ice with a scoring line, so he'd would provide no immediate intimidation factor or protection aspect for our offensive players. I believe his effectiveness would be very limited as it is with PITT. He's too slow to play the role on the PK special teams. His production of 3 G, 7 A, -4 plus/minus and 128 PIM would help contribute and hurt a already deficient PK. An enforces role these days in most cases is to give the team a burst of energy by fighting other teams in enforcers. We get same energy from our energy line players and big defensemen(Lapierre, Begin, Kostopolus, Komi, O'bryne)pounding on the forecheck or in the Defensive zone. A Laraque doesn't very often provide a team with big legal hits because he is slow and non-nimble at his size, to hit the smaller faster forwards. We'd be better off find a big gritty forward. We don't need or have room for an enforcer IMO.

cautiousoptimist's picture
I don't see him on the PK though, or on a scoring line for that matter - just as a 5-minute guy we can sic on whatever thugs decide to put on a goon show. At 1.3M he ain't free, but that's still $500k less than we're paying Dandy... With three solid scoring lines rolling, we won't need the fourth line for more than a few minutes a game anyway, and for solid shutdown hockey we've still got Begin, Higgins, Plekanec, Lapierre... He'd only have one job, as he always has, and we'd be thrilled to have him when we head out West. He's not dirty as far as I know - just tough as nails. Let me put it this way: I'd much rather have him in the press box 25 games a year than Dandy or Brisebois. www.flickeringpictures.com - not a hockey site, but still kinda neat

Man, I'd love to see Laraque in a Habs uniform! i don't think he would be that expensive either. He'd make all the other Habs feel a couple of inches taller and a dozen pounds heavier. But I don't think management has any intention of getting that kind of muscle on the team. I have a feeling they will have a change of heart during the playoffs when all kinds of liberties will be taken against to throw us off our game. Nothing they can do this year but next year will be a must. Laraque: 3 7 10 -4 128 Kostopoulos: 5 6 11 -7 102

Hoegarden's picture
Laraque has stated many times on his RDS blog, that he would never/never play for Montreal. Responders politely told him to go fly a kyte and his blog went awol.

showey47's picture
I heard he made those comments also, but were those comments made in the lean years like 4,5 plus years ago or in the last 2 years? Considering we will need little in the way of ufa's this summer on july 1st due to our depth, i can see gainey making an offer to him.

I remember that Hoegarden, however when he was available a couple of years ago.. he had chaged his tune and would have gladly come to Montreal... it is the Habs that had no interest. Penguins picked him up.

He is one goon I'd like to have as he can handle his own wiht his stick as well....there are only a few of thema nd he is one of them. I can't see Pittsburgh letting him walk though.