Game 69: Habs need shootout to down Oilers

posted by Dave Stubbs at 22h14 EST on Mar 11


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Canadiens' Travis Moen (left) and Sergei Kostitsyn celebrates Moen's second period goal against Edmonton.
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• At A Glance: One team so bad this season, they need a ladder to get into the basement. The other, battling to make the playoffs and doing well of late. So how to explain the Canadiens going to a shootout against the Edmonton Oilers – and needing a fifth-round goal by Andrei Kostitsyn to earn two points with a 5-4 win? The teams scored four goals on only 10 shots through the first half of the first period, Habs' Tomas Plekanec, with his 20th of the season, and Brian Gionta, with his 21st, bookending goals by Edmonton's Robert Nilsson and Sam Gagner. Defenceman Andrei Markov earned assists on both Habs goals. It wasn't until 15:25 through the second period that Travis Moen, with his eighth, banged one past Oilers rookie goalie Devan Dubnyk from a scramble to break the tie to put Montreal back in front. Edmonton’s Andrew Cogliano took advantage of Habs goalie Jaroslav Halak's inability to smother a puck in the first minute of the third to pull Edmonton even again. Sergei Kostitsyn, with his third, pushed the Habs back into the lead at 8:05, an advantage for just 1:14 when Halak fanned on a Shawn Horcoff slapper he’ll usually stop in his sleep.

• Key Moments:
Montreal went 0-for-7 with at least one extra man. And while it wasn’t his best game of the season, Halak stopped five Oilers in the shootout to preserve the win.

What It Means: The sixth-place Flyers were pummelled by No. 8 Boston, leaving the Habs in seventh place in the Eastern Conference with 74 points and tied with Philly, but having played three more games. Boston is eighth with 72.

What's Next: The Habs return to practice Friday morning in Brossard then face the Boston Bruins Saturday night at the Bell Centre. That will wrap up a three-game homestand and lead to two road games next week: in New York on Tuesday and Toronto on Saturday.




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Shublips's picture

Habs were lucky to pull that one out.  Halak was great in the shootout but WEAK in regulation.  Price next game?

Read more:
http://www.habsaddict.com/2010/03/montreal-edmonton-plekanec-lifts-habs.html


The PP stayed way to long on the ice in overtime. Habs need to change it up from time to time. Go with Gionta- Gomez- Pouliot and then AK46- Plckanec-SK74 for the remainder of PP. Cammalleri will be a big addition once he comes back from injury. Its good to see the Habs get on a winning streak, Keep er going boys!!! A win is a win and that's what counts the most. Forget what happen throughout the game. Get behind your team and cheer them on win or lose. Habs are starting to gel and with a full lineup soon things could get even better down the stretch. Go Habs Go!!!


andrewberkshire's picture

Chris Higgins scores for Calgary!


Clay4bc's picture

I'm surprised - didn't even know that he plays for the Flames. A short lived stay in New York, that's for sure...

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bostonantifan's picture

Who cares about that stiff anymore?


Higgins would be an excellent addition to the 3rd line; he is high energy, very fast and can score goals.


pmaraw's picture

all i remember is him getting like a boatload of breakaways and either shooting wide, having the puck roll off his stick or burying one right in the goalies midsection.


Psycho29's picture

You must be talking about a different Chris Higgins...


matmacat's picture

Surely you must have missed his last couple of seasons with montreal.


Eric37's picture

Powerplay went 0 - 7.  Nobody in front of the net.

E.


pmaraw's picture

are we streaking or what?  also did anyone see the tsn pouliot interview where he almost said halak was the #1???


Clay4bc's picture

Yeah, I caught that too...there is no doubt what he was going to say - and no doubt who he thinks is the better goalie.

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Ayan_SB's picture

Lol yeah just saw it. He says "Jaro's been clutch all year, he's been our be....he's been keeping us out of trouble all the time."


K-hab25's picture
He hasn't been here all year, hell I don't think he's even played in half of our games. So it's great that he said a typical cliche players say on every team regarding there goaltender and realized in mid sentence he was about to make a mistake. Most of these guys answers are just recycled things they say without really thinking, as was the one Pouliot almost said.

naweed235's picture

guys dont mean to start any unneeded discussion all I want is simply ur sincere and honest answer from deep down in ur heart...

this summer if the situation leaves us with no choice and we have to let one goalie leave, WHO WOULD U BE SADDER SEEING LEAVE? PRICE OR HALAK?

tnx for taking the time to answer this


Xtrahabsfan's picture

Ask Pouliot,lol...................


naweed235's picture

Halak


Somethingwithhabsinit's picture

I'm new to HIO this season, have Montreal fans always gotten this much pleasure when their own goalie has a bad game? Whether it's Price or Halak, there is an unmistakable giddiness in the air every time a softie makes its way past. Guess what? Our goalie played poorly tonight. Don't make excuses for it, don't spew bile at him, take the 2 points and move on. I just wish that everyone could take this game and freeze it in their mind for the next time either Carey or Jaro has a bad game. Enough with the goalie wars. Enough with posting the same *** over and over, endlessly, in the futile hope that someone will see that you were right and they were wrong.

What we have are two really good goaltenders, neither of whom are at the top of their game yet. In my opinion, Jaro has played better this season, and his stats reflect that. I don't think he is as far ahead of Carey as his winning record indicates, though. Halak has allowed almost twice as many 4+ goal games this year (10) as Carey has (6), with fewer starts. That's not a sign of dominance in the net.

I do think that Jaro should get the majority of starts going forward. I think he's earned that on his play over the course of the season, and especially in 2010. By that same reasoning, I think Carey should get the start against Boston on Saturday. It shouldn't be about feeding goalie egos or babysitting, it should be about starting whichever goalie gives us the best chance to win on that night. For much of the last year, the answer there has been Halak, but you can't argue with Price's numbers vs. the B's this year.

3-0-0 0.97 GAA .971 SV%

For the Rags, I'd go back to Jaro, as he shut them out last time and, yes, gave up 6 to them the week before that. I suspect it'll be closer to 0 than 6 this time around, I doubt he'll have another clunker like this for a while. If he does, no need to go looking for internet fights. If you don't spend so much time criticizing the one guy, you probably won't have to spend so much time defending the other.


matmacat's picture

You're no different. This is the same **** that gets posted over and over again. Best to ignore it I think.


Somethingwithhabsinit's picture

You're totally right, this adds nothing. I think it's especially obvious when you see that I started another goalie war with my "please everyone, let's stop the goalie wars" bull. Lesson learned.


K-hab25's picture
Jaro 10 4+ GA games all in regulation in his 32 starts. A 1/3rd of his starts. Price has 6 4+ GA games, but only 4x's in regulation in his 37 starts. An 1/8th of his starts.

Clay4bc's picture

21 W-10 L-2 OTL

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light_n_tasty's picture

Yet, Halak has over 2x as many victories, a better GAA, and a better save %, so....


Considering Price has 13 wins x 2 is 26

Halak has 21 wins. Do your math again!


K-hab25's picture
So he's more prone to having off nights. Thats it and Thats all. I forgot that little precious is off limits. I'll try and keep my stats strictly positive about precious in the future. Wouldn't want reality getting in the way of opinions around here.

Hamayoune's picture

I don't want to take any side but a winner wins games; you can't judge a goalie by the number of goals he allows. Miller has been a great goalie for several years now, however his numbers were not all that great. What made him the face of the franchise was the fact that he was a winner.


daveho29's picture

and your point is?


K-hab25's picture
Let me explain Halakite. Halak has been below average in a 1/3rd of his starts this year. Hell in a 1/3rd of his wins he's allowed 3+ GA. So my "point" was Halak is more likely to be lit up for 4+ GA than Price is. So people shouldn't A. act surprised or B. say that it's rare, because he's done it 10 times in 32 starts.

it is not how many goals you give up but when...grant fuhr they said gave up many bad goals but rarely when it counted..both halak and price will give up bad goals but which one will give up a bad goals when the game is tied in the third


daveho29's picture

I'm a halak or price fan, but first and formost a habs

 

Check my profile, i do believe it say my favorite current Hab is Price.

 

P.S. I do believe decorum was asked for, so no need to be rude. I just wanted you to clarify.


Somethingwithhabsinit's picture

This site is hilarious.


K-hab25's picture
I know I've read in the last 24 hours that a guy that's never started more than 34 games in the NHL/AHL/ECHL, never won a playoff game let alone a series and whose own coach doesn't consider him his straight up #1, is elite and top 5 in the world. Now that is freaking Hysterical!!

adam76's picture

21 W-10 L-2 OTL



christophor's picture

you are too easily offended. people pull out stats all the time. this is a hockey board. get used to it


Ayan_SB's picture

Sick play by PK Subban on an end-to-end rush (from Friday)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9JSORg8GWk&feature=player_embedded#


deuce6's picture

Who does that announcer think he is? Rick Jennerette? lol What a loser...Annoying as heck.....

Great rush by PK..


Eric37's picture

Thanks for that!  He's gonna be great.

E.


Say Ash's picture

I've been waiting a while for PK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9rp-ewJ8mI


Ayan_SB's picture

aemarchand11's picture

If the following players had played the entire year and kept up their current scoring pace we would have some high scorers.

Benoit PouliotL: Habs -

25GP 14G 5A = 82 GP 46G 16A 62Points
Brian Gionta
48GP 21G 16A 37Pts = 82GP 36G 27A 63Points
Andrei Markov
32GP 4G 21A 25Pts = 82GP 10G 54A 64 Points
haha what if?

 

-Halak it alot because the Price is right-


daveho29's picture

And if my mother had ***** she'd be my father.


aemarchand11's picture

thats a what if?poor guy

-Halak it alot because the Price is right-


aemarchand11's picture

thats a what if?poor guy

-Halak it alot because the Price is right-


Iceberg84's picture

Wow. Habs are in a position they haven't been in so far this season I think: they can actually afford to lose a game without risking the loss of a playoff spot. If they lose their next one, then even with games in hand, no other team below Montreal can pass them without playing more games. Still, best not to take any chances! Let's make it a 17 game winning streak!


Bugs's picture

You were [this] close to activating the Code Red, Icey. Happy you caught yourself in time.

Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson's Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Flannelcom's Inventory-tallying Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/


Just finished watching the game... Is our PP pathetic or what? Granted, Halak wasn't at his best tonight and Markov played like total garbage, but how many chances do you losers need to bury it on the power play? Enough with useless pretty passes... and when you choose to shoot once in a blue moon, hit the effing net! Man... brutal. Needing a shootout to beat the Oilers. Terrible.  


VancouverHab's picture

Wow, Timo buddy: if you write this way when we win, what would your post read like if we lost?!!


andrewberkshire's picture

Markov played like garbage? 2 assists, +3. Not even close to garbage.


slapshot777's picture

If I'm not mistaken he was one of the three stars for the game. Not sure if he was 1st or 3rd. Stars of the game don't end up playing garbage games.

 

 

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.


SeriousFan09's picture

That's a pretty good night for Nik Lidstrom, 8 years ago!

 

- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


andrewberkshire's picture

Damn straight!


punkster's picture

Apart from the rampant negativity of all and sundry I agree your pass versus shoot comment. Frustrating to watch them try to pass, pass, pass, then hold the puck looking to make a pass, then pass to someone looking to pass it, then oops, lose possession. Shoot FFS!


ooder's picture

even though missing cammy and MAB (yes him) does hurt our PP, i agree that was pathetic.. they had so many oppurtunities and kept putting it wide

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MAB is the cornerstone of our success. THere will be no cup without MAB.


badbalance's picture

I kinda agree with you on that one


Ayan_SB's picture

Is you on crack or somefin'? They F. won...


Bugs's picture

Call me rotten but isn't interesting my boy the Priceberg plays his best game of the year in a loss and Halak plays his worst in a victory?

Yeah, yeah, San Jose this, Edmonton that, but still, mojo counts fer sumthin, don't it?

Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson's Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Flannelcom's Inventory-tallying Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/


Ayan_SB's picture

I'd say Price's best game of the year in a loss was against Nashville.


This makes 13 games where Halak has a save percentage under 900.


Bugs's picture

Now calculate his win percentage.

Dubiously unequivocal, know me as

L.B. Potter, esq. First Bugler of the St-Habberson's Club Red Brigade and Head Coachman to the President of Flannelcom's Inventory-tallying Services: http://habsbros.blogspot.com/


ooder's picture

ok we get it... you hate halak.. post something else now

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christophor's picture

ive seen him comment negatively on both sides. at least he's fair and not a fanboy.

a lot of fanboys around. probably more halak fanboys these days. probably more of a reason for that though


Clay4bc's picture

LOL, you are easily misled. He is Priceberg, and he is the fanboy to end all fanboys.

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habsfanmandy's picture

I was at the game tonight!!!!!! Halak was not great, but he made some great saves to take us to OT and SO. The PP was horrible, nobody shooting. They really miss Cammalleri on the PP. SK blew by the puck a few times and there were some horrible turnovers, but if we would've scored a couple of PP goals it would've been the gimme we wanted it to be.

Very entertaining. GO HABS GO!!!!!!! And most importantly Kerry Fraser was invisible/a non-factor.


bostonantifan's picture

"if we would've scored a couple of PP goals it would've been the gimme we wanted it to be."

Or if Halak had posted a shutout, or if Pouliot scored a hat trick. So what?


Ayan_SB's picture

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As of right now, #Habs are officially hottest team in the league with 4 straight wins, #Thrashers are coldest, with 4 straight losses

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daveho29's picture

I don't know about "the" hottest.

 

Calgary has also won 4 staight a Carolina is 8-1-1 in their last 10. While the habs are 6-4.


Well if Halak wants to be #1 then JM should play him in every game. A #1 goalie at 24 yrs should have no problem playing the rest of the games! 


off the subject of tonites win, but who thinks the scoring system should be changed.

3 points for a win in regulation, 0 for a loss in regulation,

2 points for a win in OT ( whether it is the first 5 minutes or the shootout)

1 point for a loss in OT. 


daveho29's picture

I think the should do the same thing Football(soccer) did

3 points for a win

1 for a tie.

 

Keep the the 5 minute overtime 4 aside but scrap the shootout.

 

No loser point should be given.


BKAK72's picture

IMO you give 2 PTS for a WIN (regulation, O/T or S/O).  No points for ties or a silly "participation" point for losing. 

-- I will not apologize for being a delirious HABS fan! --


Clay4bc's picture

But that legitimizes the shootout, something that shouldn't even exist in a team sport. I agree with you if they just play OT until there is a winner.

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your system is like giving only a gold medal for a winner and no silver or bronze.

my system accknowledges that there are levels of achievement. Clearly if you lose 

in regulation you get 0, but if you,ve gotten to overtime you've achieved a little more

and if you win in O/T you have even done better , but not as well as if you had won outright

in regulation.


Clay4bc's picture

"Your" system of course being the IIHF system...

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WindsorHab-10's picture

Hockey is the only major sport that rewards a losing team. I've always had a problem with that.


naweed235's picture

sounds good to me...


WindsorHab-10's picture

Not a very good game by Halak but boy did he redeem himself in the shootout. Huge win, I hope we will be better prepared against the Bruins Saturday.


naweed235's picture

in my opinion we are too close to the playoffs to keep on fukin with our #1 goalies confidence... I think we should definitly go back with Halak on saturday.... plus we all know how he picks it up greatly after a bad game (although he hasnt had a lot of them this season)

lets see if our coach has a bit of brain bw the ears....


K-hab25's picture
32 starts and a 1/3rd (10) of them he's allowed 4+ goals all in regulation. So I'd say he's had his fair share of bad outings. Just for comparisons sake Price has 37 starts with only 4 games has he allowed 4+ goals in regulation.

He had more than Price did, that's a given!

ooder's picture

which is why his save % is top in the league and he has more wins right?

man, you halak bahsers just don't rest

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He's #8

Would you rather play washington or pittsburgh in the playoffs


Jbird's picture

Washington!!!!  More fun to watch and a better chance to win IMO


I'm with you... their lack of goaltending won't do them any good


WindsorHab-10's picture

I'd rather make the playoffs first & then worry about it.


Ian Cobb's picture

Very poor puck control for us tonight. And our D is the softest in the league. But every game lately , we find a way to get 2 points. Sounds like my kind of team, winners!!


spoonfullofjelly's picture

is it just me or is the word GREAT thrown around too often nowadays. I'm in the bar tongith and I hear Halak is Great.......I'm sorry Great is reserved for goalies such as Brodeur and Roy, not Halak, atleast not yet. Hold on to your horses.


RiverviewCanadien's picture

Now you know how awful it has been to hear Price the Franchise, or Priceberg, etc, etc.


naweed235's picture

ahaha ... well said