Game 37: Joyeux, no L: Habs whip Lightning

posted by Dave Stubbs at 22h28 EST on Dec 27


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Canadiens' Maxim Lapierre (centre) celebrates his first-period goal with Christopher Higgins and Mathieu Dandenault.
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Updated with links to The Gazette game story at 8:35 a.m. by Kevin Mio 

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Carbonneau Post-Game Audio (French only)

At noon-hour today, Guy Carbonneau’s curious, latest shuffle of his lines had Canadiens fans in a flap worthy of our gone-south Canada geese.

By 9 p.m., surely some of those fans were reconsidering the foresight – dare we say genius? – of the gone-south Canadiens head coach.

Montreal scored early and often tonight in Tampa, five different players finding the net behind two goaltenders, in rolling to a 5-2 victory over the Lightning. We’ll never know whether the result was because the Canadiens were rested, not having played since Sunday, or because the Lightning were weary, having played Wednesday night.

No matter what, the Canadiens improved to 18-13-6 overall in this fourth of a six-game road trip, while avoiding their third straight loss. The Habs are an outstanding 12-6-2 away from the Bell Centre.



Maxim Lapierre, inserted by Carbonneau on the Canadiens’ third line between Christopher Higgins and Michael Ryder, opened the scoring at 10:20 of the first period, picking up a beautiful Montreal zone-clearing pass from defenceman Mike Komisarek threaded through two Lightning players at the Habs blue line. Lapierre drew Tampa defenceman Filip Kuba in deep on the 2-on-1 break, then used Higgins as a decoy before whipping a shot past Lightning goalie Johan Holmqvist for his first goal of the season.

Guillaume Latendresse made it 2-0 just 2:29 later, converting the excellent work of Sergei Kostitsyn and backhand toil in the slot of captain Saku Koivu for his 10th of the year.

The Canadiens outshot their hosts 10-6 through the first 20 minutes.

Alex Kovalev eluded defender Brad Lukowich along the boards off the opening faceoff of the second period and caromed one in off the sliding Kuba’s skate, through the pads of Holmqvist for his 16th. It came at just 10 seconds with the teams playing 4-on-4, Latendresse and Tampa’s Shane O’Brien serving coincidental minors drawn at 20:00 of the first.

Montreal’s third goal brought out Lightning coach John Tortorella’s hook for goalie Holmqvist in place of Karri Ramo, who immediately proved to be more airtight than the netminder he replaced. Ramo was terrific foiling Higgins with a glove save on a shorthanded semi-breakaway about eight minutes into the period, Michael Ryder in the box for tripping.

Montreal held a 12-11 edge in shots in the second period.

Defenceman Andrei Markov made it 4-0 with his 10th of the year, that coming on a one-time slap shot off a cross-ice pass from Mark Streit, fed by Koivu, at 44 seconds of the third. The arena was still deflating from that when Tomas Plekanec took a pass from Kovalev, then fed the streaking Andrei Kostitsyn for the Canadiens’ fifth and the player’s seventh, just 24 seconds later.

Tampa’s Vaclav Prospal ruined Huet’s shutout bid at 6:15 when some botched coverage by the Habs along their boards left the Lightning forward alone at the edge of the Montreal goal crease.

Tortorella, as puzzling to Lightning fans as Carbonneau sometimes is to Montreal supporters, then put Holmqvist back in the Tampa net. His players might even have noticed.

Sloppy clearing by the Canadiens with 16 seconds left allowed Tampa's Jan Hlavac to score the Lightning's second goal.

The Canadiens will be in Sunrise, Fla., Friday night to take on the Florida Panthers, then will conclude their road trip on Sunday in New York vs. the Rangers.


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Vince is Possible in 2015's picture
I guess all it takes is a win against Tampa for Carbo to be called "...- dare we say genius?–" COME ON! How long have we been beggin' to split up Higgins and Koivu! Just remember when it's the third period tonight and the game is tied or we're up by a goal (I too can dream!)with 7 minutes or less left to play, we'll all watch the Guy Carbonneau's classic third period playbook of strategies. I can hear him already: 1. "Okay guys we gonna ice da puck as much as possible. I wanna see twenty ices in the last seven minutes. Ice is nice!" 2. "We gonna wear them out in our own end. They gonna be so tired shooting the puck as much as possible at our goalie, they gonna forget to score!" ___________________________________________________________________________ "WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT VINCE!"

Hoegarden's picture
Looks like Carbonneau giving Ryder another shot to break out of his slump failed.... A struggling Tampa with lots of open ice and no joy for the poor lad. Not sure Carbs will repeat this with a team playing the trap like the Panthers do. Ryder will likely have to ride the bus in and out of Hamilton to figure out the problem.

Vince is Possible in 2015's picture
While we are playing Florida tonight, I am reminded of the goal that was let it in a previous meeting this year, with under 10 seconds left in regulation, and I have seen this scenario a lot since last season. So I ask you the experts out in Habsland, what happens to HUET when there is less than 10 minutes, 7 minutes, 1 minute to go? I mean he lets in really lousy goals! It seems his brain freezes. I mean I get really ticked when Huet dives to the ground and just lays there, watching the goal go in, as THE PLAY IS NOT OVER!!! .. no attempt to recover it, he gives up. He sometimes looks like a fish out of water, paralyzed on the ice. This seems to happen when we have a lead. Am I the only one who thinks this? Anyone have HUET stats in the third compared to the 1st and 2nd periods? _________________________________________________________________________ "WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT VINCE!"

Vince is Possible in 2015's picture
Why in your scenario do we give up our quality player for Tampa's garbage? Oh, wait a minute that would be a typical Gainey trade. But we would also get two broken hockey sticks and some used tape. But if we did give up HUET to Tampa, I'd feel just fine with Price and Halak. Hey, we're losing HUET at the end of the year anyway! The better question is who can we get for HUET? He is considered an "allstar"! ________________________________________________________________________ "WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT VINCE!"

The Teacher's picture
Touche!

Hoegarden's picture
I'm afraid you are the only one thinking like this Vincent. The whole team geared down with 5 to go and of course Huet is to blame for letting one in. Most of Habs were either watching the clock or watching their backs. Nobody wanted the puck. Huet made the first save, did he not ? Then it's up to the D to clear the rebound or keep the opposing forwards out of the crease. Obyrne stood there and missed the incoming forward. Teamwork does it, not just the goalie.

Vince is Possible in 2015's picture
Good point. Just seem to see the same thing over again, having an amazing first two periods, then tanking in the third. I realize he is not soley to blame and this is a team thing. _________________________________________________________________________ "WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT VINCE!"

Ian G Cobb's picture
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idle's picture
Another excellent post Ian. Thanks for sharing. :)

Ian G Cobb's picture
If people only learned to read between the lines and think between there ears, we would be perfect like myself!

idle's picture
Well.. almost perfect. I think you meant 'think between their ears' lol I hate people who correct typos and grammer

idle's picture
Just a casual observation here but... Koivu gets 2 points in a 5-2 win and all the only comments I am reading on here are Koivu does not celebrate enough after a teamates goal Koivu does not look happy out there at all maybe he wants to be traded I did not see Koivu in the last 15 min of the game maybe we should sit him out a game Koivu is probably upset about some fans calling for him to be traded and the whole language thing. Is anyone else seeing a theme here? For starters maybe Koivu was just a little under the weather. Maybe he had a tummy ache or maybe his jock was pointing into him a bit. Maybe his pet hamster just died. Why do we always try to read so much into everything. The language issue has come up almost every year so I doubt it would all of a sudden be that. And even if he is a little tired or unhappy maybe it is the fact that he scores 2 points in a game and people are unhappy with him because he does not look excited enough when a teammate scores or they want him to sit the next game cause he did not look involved in the last 15min of play. One thing that people tend to forget is that Koivu has always been a 70 point player. He is on the same pace as he is every year. You can't just want him to be a 100 point player and then be upset at him when he is not. He never was a 100 point player and he probably never will be. He is a great, consistent 70 point player who gives you a lot of effort and creates a lot of chances. we used to be pleased with that but for some reason the last couple seasons and especially this season we seem to be unhappy with it. The only time we should be unhappy with Koviu is if he starts dropping to 50 points a season or stops creating chances. But he is the same player now that he was 5 years ago when the whole city was in love with him.

idle's picture
I hear ya man. I know it can't all be good news, but it ain't all bad news either :)

Carbo said after the game that Koivu wasn't feeling well, which was the reason he was used sparingly at the end. He didn't specify the nature of the malaise; I just hope it wasn't gastro.

ColRouléBleu's picture
Koivu's presence in the lineup is uncertain due to a virus according to what rds are publishing today. He did look a little green last night.

PattyBoy31's picture
In no way am I upset with him, if I see him not celebrating or looking unhappy I 100% feel bad for him, I feel bad for the whole team when they score and most of the bench doesn't react.

G-Man's picture
Greatness ain't a 70 point player. 95+ points, sure, but 70? No way. However, he is suffering from the flu, ergo he doesn't celebrate much. Gilbert

idle's picture
But my whole point was that Koivu is not a 95+ point player, so why do we hold him to that standard. I also don't think I was suggesting that Koivu had 'greatness'. So use a different adjective then great if you want, but the point is he is still a very good player in this league, especially in the context of playing on the Habs who have not had many high scoring players in recent years. I guess I just don't understand why we take a player who consistently performs for us year after year and complain about him because he is not a better player when he was never really meant to be.

Blitzen's picture
A few things: 1) As others have mentioned, Gorges has become very solid. I nevah want to see BreezeBy play over him again. 2) And the real Cube is back. 3) SKoz is one heck of a keeper. Great hockey sense. That kid is gonna explode at some point and be a point+ per game guy. 4) Glad to see AKoz get a goal as I think he was pressing trying to be as good as his bro. 5) I'm betting Chips is in and Kosto is out tonight. Rest stays the same. 6) Ryder is still trying to deek guys when he should pass. But he'll play again tonight. 7) Not sure we'll see Price tonight. 8) Why don't we just waive Smokes right now...there just won't be any space for him when he's "ready". I'm betting there are other Bulldogs supposedly not ready to help who would help more than him because they would actually give a damn. 9) Who do you sit for Bégin? I think his game has slipped a little this year. Maybe the injuries piling up? 10) We are still going to lose tonight and win in NY, giving them a pretty good record on this tough road trip. But I'm liking this team more and more.

linp's picture
Fully agree that the real Cube is back. He has confidence to carry the puck and to breakout from our zone. He is doing the job that is expected from Markov. It is also nice to see Kovy's puck control. It seems that he can insert a sense of system attack whenever he has the puck (not just fight for a lose puck).

The Cat's picture
A junior team could have dominated Tampa Bay last night. Habs gotta play with more hunger if they want to beat Florida and since they already got 5 out of a possible 10 points on this roadtrip, I wouldnt be surprised if they just cruise tonight and later against the rangers.

Blitzen's picture
The problem with Tampa is that they take a LOT of chances on O. I mean they were forechecking three guys deep at times last night and their D-Men were on the boards leaving the middle wide open. They got caught on a bunch of odd-man rushes and paid the price.

G-Man's picture
Solid effort. Dressing 2 D with Kostopoulos shut down Vinny big time. Think Tampa would be willing to trade 1 of their Big 3 now? Lucky bounces changed the game entirely. 1. Lapierre's goal of Kuba's stick or it's an easy save. 2. Kovalev's goal off Kuba's leg then off the goal post and then off the back of the goalie's skate and in. The odd thing was how the Habs were able to dominate down low. There was one stretch during the 2nd that they cycled in Tampa's zone for about 90 seconds. No news regarding Tortarella's firing; it's probably just another rumor. Well it is at 5:50 this A.M. anyway. Time to declaw some Panthers! Gilbert

The Cat's picture
A win is a win but I cant get too excited. I mean I saw Tampa bay against Washington, and then last night against the habs and barring any illness thats ravaging the team, theyve obviously quit playing for Tortorella.

habsguy's picture
well said teacher, I read your post after writing mine !!

habsguy's picture
come on guys, if Koivu was about to be traded, he wouldn't be playing, they wouldn't risk an injury. Did you ever think maybe he's sick or has a minor injury..They won 5-2 do you have to throw negitives at the win, can't we just be positive and hope for another win tomorrow!!!!

Big Bird's picture
I think anyone who questioned the Rivet trade by Gainey might want to reconsider their position. I think Rivet (an old player) for a young Josh Georges and 1st Round pick (Max Pacioretty) is a pretty damn good deal. So even if Ribiero for Ninimmaa was a bad trade, I think you need to consider the good ones like this. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bob Gainey is the best General Manager we've had in years. We should be thankful we have him. I know a certain team where I live that hasn't had a decent GM since 1967 (and counting).

carmine007's picture
So even if Ribiero for Ninimmaa was a bad trade.. Dude this trade was stupid from the word go!!! Everyone was stating that Ribs was a bit of a problem child in the locker room. I think we need to be more patient with some of the younger guys before we throw them into the river... Just like Ryder right now and Carey Price. Patience my friends patience.... Happy New Year! It's NEVER over til it's OVER!

Reconsidering Rivet's trade ? I dont think I ever heard or read about anyone having done so. Unlike Souray, Rivet was not a crucial piece to our team's chances of making the playoffs,.. the deadline transaction was a no brainer and the return was more than people had expected,.. and could even have more valu to it depending on the prospect's progression. Gainey is fine a man but average as a GM,.. as for some he might well be bellow average,.. its a matter of facts, interpretations and how much one wants to look into it,.. which I shall abstained for now in the spirit of the holyday season.

I take it you live in Toronto.

HAB-PROFESSOR's picture
GREAT GAME, by ALL THE HABS. what a predicament CARBS is in...you try not to 'tweak' things when your winning, and you can't panic and change everything after 1 loss because the players need to learn how it feels to lose, as that is an element to drive them to win. Then you have games like tonight where the bounces combined with hardwork gets you the result you deserve. I'd like to see CHIPS back in for Florida, but who do you sit? Ryder?, Kostop?...or maybe Koivu needs a rest because I don't think I saw him for the last 15mins? is he post-christmas meal sick?...if thats the case then you simply insert Chips. I am guilty of critiquing GORGES...he has gladly proven me wrong. The kid is a keeper, plays his heart out, sacrifices his body and didn't turtle against the vicious MCGRATTON who wanted to use him as a punching bag... GORGES instills the HEART AND PASSION that we need to compete at the upper levels, that group of 4-5 teams who are elite of the 30....thats where we want to be amongst...Ottawa, Detroit, Dallas, Colorado... other notables: KOMI plastered someone along the boards...game shifting hit. KOVY playing EXTREMELY strong on the puck HIGGS-RYDER-LAPIER...cycling endlessly, we saw some chemistry there, would be nice to have them play again. PLEK tic-tac-toe with his brothers and many more... time to DESTROY THAT MONKEY ON OUR BACK CALLED FLORIDA. --------- 1. until the problem in my picture is solved...we will not be Champions. 2. Delenda Est Torontium.... 3. your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND "The Rocket"

OldGrover's picture
I think you sit Kostop and put Chips in as centre on that 4th line. I'd rather play the young guys - we aren't likely to win the cup, so let's play our young guys, give them the experience they need to build us into the team we want to be.

T-roy West's picture
Ryder still looks really confused out there, was partially to blame for the first Tampa goal because of his missed hit. He was also on a three on one ,and when he needed to pass it the most, he shot it. How ironic. I don't know what is up with this guy. Mybe it has nothing to do with hockey, who knows, but I wish him well and hope that he shakes this thing. I still want to see a Higgins Chipchura Lapierre line!!!

Unfortunately, I've predicted the entire road trip right so far. http://habsinsideout.com/main/1849 =Bottom of Page

So, did Tortarella get fired or what?

NEWFOUNDLAND DOG's picture
Looks like Santa gave us what we wanted. A win. Hopefully many more. Huet let in another softy. But a great win none the less. Habs 4 points up on the Leafs. Not much to brag about though.

Oh... and this combined with Flyers' shellacking of Leafs is SHUWEEEEEEEETTT!!!

Good game, good game. Well played,Habs. And is anybody else really impressed with Gorges? Carbonneau is such a bonehead for playing Brisbois over Josh and wasting all this time. Wonder how many games has it cost us. Ryder still looks terrible though. Looked like he was trying on a couple of occasions but all his attempts did not make any impact at all. Did anybody notice how indifferent Koivu has looked? When Latendress scored he just didn't seem to care at all. Zero emotions. I wonder whether he has already been promised to be traded, or simply resigned to the fact that he is stuck with this team for a while. Either way he is not a happy player. Never a good thing when you captain is that way. Anyway... overall, good job Habs and for heavens sake please excert same type of effort tomorrow.

PattyBoy31's picture
about koivu, i noticed that too, I don't think they'd tell a player he's going to be traded until the very latest, so i doubt thats it. I think it may be the fans calling for him to be traded, and the whole language thing adding up. And you never know what really goes on in the locker room

Mattee.'s picture
Gorges has been playing great. He has had one or two shaky starts so far and one costly mistake all year. We still don't know how much potential this kid has and there may be more to his game than we give him credit for. As for Koivu, I hope he stays but he deserves to be on a contender. He isn't getting any younger. If he does get traded, I don't think a single fan will be angry with him. Koivu brought his best for us. I Heart "System."

The Teacher's picture
Expected mostly negative statements from you. Ryder did not play terrible. Koivu is apparently sick. Yes, Carbo is a bonehead for playing Brisebois over anybody on the roster, and Gorges played excellent tonight. and yes, effort is key. always.

Come on man, this is the most positive I have ever been... (until tomorrow, then we'll see) :)

The Teacher's picture
That's my point! :P I'm pleasantly surprised!

The Teacher's picture
Wow, Tortorella just got fired! Replaced by Bob Hartley

CHsam's picture
Is this true??

The Teacher's picture
Apparently it was reported on CJAD

CHsam's picture
Ouch. Yeah, his face looked pretty ashen as the game wore on. Oh well, we win.

WindsorHab-10's picture
For all the posts earlier today that wanted Chipchura in and either Lappierre or Latendresse out, what do you think after tonight's performance? Happy with the win, I just hope they bring the same game and effort tomorrow night.

The Teacher's picture
I don't think I read a single comment about someone wanting Lapierre out. I think I saw one very inane post from someone wanting Lats out. Most people were ticked off that Chipper got sat, and that 8 defence-men were dressed. I'll give them 7 (Dandy is now a forward)

The Teacher's picture
I think we all just wanted to see the same effort!

oshawahabsfan's picture
Did you ever consider Markov may have been joking about what he said about Ovechkin. You must be forgetting that Markov insisted that he be signed in Montreal, he loves playing here as much as any player on our team. Like most things said to the media this was probably said in a different context and you're making a big deal out of nothing.

Drive_4_25's picture
Your absolutely RIGHT! If he was joking.. But unfortunately the way they explained the story on RDS was that there was no Humour intended on his part, But, maybe he should be given the benefit of the doubt...considering the media's history here! GOOD POINT! "God is a HABS fan whose still pissed at the ROY trade!!!"

The Teacher's picture
I noticed you never responded to my reply to your post below that pretty much closed up shop for you on this subject?

Fer_hab's picture
Drive at 25. B4 you go on your holier then thou rant. Change your f'en pic please. HOW DARE YOU PHOTO SHOP YOUR FACE ON YO ROY"S. Absolutley TASTELESS

Drive_4_25's picture
Holier then thou rant" ...What are you talking about I said absolutely NOTHING about ME! Try thinking BEFORE you WRITE something!! And when you RE-READ the comments you were attempting to shaft me on!! You'll see that All I was saying was for a player to say something negative about where he's playing simply SUCKS for team morale! And if you disagree, we'll that's your perogative... but you'd be wrong! "God is a HABS fan whose still pissed at the ROY trade!!!"

Mattee.'s picture
umm, well when you tell people they have half a brain, it kind of makes you seem like you're above them. Was that your angle? I Heart "System."

N.B.habs fan's picture
carb.will raise the banner (: (soon) GREAT WIN BOYS!!!!!!!!!!! carb. must of done something to get them going,so lets enjoy the win and stop the name calling.

CHsam's picture
ooof. Huet looked shaky last 20 seconds, thankfully he can still sit on a puck

CHsam's picture
Oh great hit Ryder. bah

T-roy West's picture
Hey Newfoundland Dog: The Florida Panthers play in Sunrise,Florida - #1 Panther Parkway, cheers!

NEWFOUNDLAND DOG's picture
Troy, Where is that near. What major city etc?

T-roy West's picture
It's about a 20 minute drive north of Miami like the person said on your first post!

Solid effort so far. We are not giving T.B. many good scoring opportunities. We have been able to capatilize on a few breaks and we must put it away with a goal on this 4 minute P.P. or risk playing a tight ending.

slamtherimtim's picture
we should be beating these losers , if we lost this game it would be a huge story tomorrow , stop thinking the habs are gonna be a good team , the are aerage at best and they should consider trading some of the losers playing for them while theyre hot before they get ice cold again ,,, markov is probaly mad because gainey has done nothing to improve the team over last year , which im sure he told him he would do , GET RID OF GAINEY before its to late , we got timmins , hes the one doing all the work

WindsorHab-10's picture
Whoever you are, take a chill pill because you have no clue about this team and definitely zero about Gainey.

Well... you ask a stupid question, you get a stupid answer. An honest one, but not very wise, I admit.

The Teacher's picture
Uhhh..would you want to go to a place where you would be taxed at 52% More power to Markov. He chose to live here, he pays his taxes, he has EVERY right to complain... disgusted? Drive on the roads, go to our schools, look at our infrastructure. That's what's disgusting in my opinion. Thank you.

The Teacher's picture
Because we have free health care for everyone, among other things.

Drive_4_25's picture
His RESPONSABILITY is to HIS TEAM and TEAMATES!!! what the hell is wrong with you? I am also in a tax bracket where I get raped at 52%! Are his comments going to change that??? NO! Just think about the impact on HIS TEAMATES ! are you so niave that you think the rest of the players aren't effected by him saying he would't encourage anyone let alone his best friend to play in montreal! It's not ALWAYS about the money! "God is a HABS fan whose still pissed at the ROY trade!!!"

The Teacher's picture
Has he done anything to detract from that? No? i'm sure Ovechkin would know all the details of his tax bracket before he even considered moving here. Helloooo We live in the 21st century here! I don't think anything is wrong with me, do you? Do you complain about your taxes? do you complain about the crappy snow removal? Do you complain about the crappy services we get? Ok..so why can't he? don't forget, he CHOSE to come here! I'm sure that speaks volumes enough. He didn't tell Ovechkin not to come because of that. That's not how it went down. stop overreacting and trying to stir up a controversy over something you probably do every day, I know I do ;)

Big Bird's picture
You may not like his comment but it is true. I used to live in Montreal and loved it but besides the separatists, the other thing I don't miss are the taxes. I also think that context is important. The team was not playing well at the time he was asked about was is basically a stupid rumor about Ovechkin.

Drive_4_25's picture
I LIVE here and 1st of all he wasn't asked about a "stupid rumour" He was simply asked the question as to weithjer or not he would suggest to a friend to play here! And under the circumstances! (If you have half a brain) regardless of how you REALLY feel! YOU SAY SURE I WOULD WHY NOT! HENCE SUPPORTING YOUR TEAM AND TEAMATES! How narrow minded you are! "God is a HABS fan whose still pissed at the ROY trade!!!"

mjames's picture
What rock did you crawl out from under. Typical provincial thinking. Your comments are not only off base but insulting. You are the one that is narrow minded. For your information this Oveckin business started with a Jack Todd column. Todd was wondering out loud in his column if Oveckin would ever play for the Canadiens. It had no basis, genius. mjames

Big Bird's picture
I really enjoyed this conversation Drive_4_25. Thanks for stopping by.

Mattee.'s picture
We kind of talked about this on BB. The bottom line is Markov was honest plain and simple. 52% tax is ridiculous and stating it doesn't make him an arse. Not even close. Unlike Brunet, I don't think he should put his head down and shut his mouth. Remember, he could have gone anywhere else and only taken a 33% cut or less! He stayed because he loves Montreal. But if you don't like Montreal, 52% would scare anyone away. I Heart "System."

T-roy West's picture
Did anyone see Sergi Kostitsyn come to the defence of Latendresse with he got into a scuffle at the end of the period. That's what I like,grit! Awesome period by Hamrlik and Bouillon. I still would rather have Chipchura centering Higgins and Lapierre.

NEWFOUNDLAND DOG's picture
The Lighting play out of St.Petersburg right. Why is the team called Tampbay Lighting? Where does The Panthers play out of?

Pathers play out of Sunrise, FL -- a bit north of Ft. Lauderdale and about 25 miles north of Miami . . . The old arena, when they first entered the league, was on the edge of downtown Miami. I think the NBA Heat still play there.

linp's picture
Rumor has Lapierre centering Higgins and Ryder, Koivu centering Latendresse and S. Kostitsyn. Chipchura is out. I think Carbo's logic is to put 4 D-men on the ice to stop Lecavalier. If you can stop Lecavalier, you won't lose. The rest is unimportant.

Xtrahabsfan's picture
Ryder is done like yesterdays turkey and for the sake of his career needs a trade .It's just like Keven m posted ,we need a caracter with some swagger,ego,a motavater and a producer of goals,someone who can lift this team of whitebread zombies and we need that person NOW!!!

Sakus Evil Twin's picture
Contain Lecavalier, contain the Bolts. Give Ryder that job. Go Habs!

Blitzen's picture
I think they'll beat Vinny in a shootout tonight, then lose to Florida and win a close one against the Rangers.

How can you think they'll win a shootout with Huet in goal? He's a very good goaltender but pretty hopeless in a shootout, in which the result depends more on the goaltender than on the shooters. If it goes to OT, they'll have to score in those five minutes.

coutNY's picture
History is in our favor. we've only lost 1 Wednesday or Thursday game all year!

hockeydevil's picture
I hope Carbonneau and Ryder had sometime to reflect over the holidays. Maybe Carbo can show some patience, and Ryder can score a goal or two... Finishing last wouldn't be so bad this year looking at the chance at the draft picks still out there (ie Current World Juniors). Wouldn't it be nice to have Tavares or Stamkos in a Habs Jersey? ------------------------------- Talk hockey at hockeydevils

Blitzen's picture
They're not going to let the team flounder bad enough to have a shot at any of these two guys. If things begin to go REAL bad, they'll trade for a couple of veterans to be able to make the first round or just miss out on the playoffs. I don't think tanking completely is in the books. And anyways, they're not doing so badly for such a young team.

hockeydevil's picture
We're doing ok, but it would be nice to get one or both of these guys....It's the easiest way to get a top talent to play here... ------------------------------- Talk hockey at hockeydevils

Blitzen's picture
No trade is "easy" in the new NHL. They'll need to give up an awful lot to get these players so they'll only do it if they feel that, somehow, the future just turned totally black and the young players won't get it done. Unless they trade Koivu or Kovalev and I don't think trading these guys to get comparable guys will make any difference. They won't trade Koivu and Ryder for Lecavalier or any of those stupid trade rumours I have seen. The other teams aren't dumb enough. There are likely no more 70s California Golden Seals type owners out there anymore.

The Teacher's picture
Tavares is not draft eligible this year.

hockeydevil's picture
So far...I know they are trying to get him into this one.... ------------------------------- Talk hockey at hockeydevils